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there are over 1 000 ufo sightings

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reported around the world every month

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90 of these sightings can be explained

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but 10

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cannot officially and unofficially the

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us government has been investigating ufo

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since 1947.

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your top secret goal is to find out

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what's behind these unexplained

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the pentagon classifies these as unusual

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airborne anomalies

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but a better term is x-files

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join us as mack juan one and commander

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cobra it's one of these unsolved cases

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ufo incidents that even baffled the u.s

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military

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and now here's mac maloney

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well good evening everyone and welcome

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to mac maloney's military style show

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here on the distant thunder radio and

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network and this is mac maloney we have

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a very exciting show for you tonight but

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let me first introduce

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contractually obligated to introduce the

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very famous one one is here hello mark

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how's it going tonight 13 weeks in a row

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is it that's right now that's exciting

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that is that's that's like a

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defibrillator type exciting right that's

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why we have one here on hand we do yeah

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after last week

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that's man sorry

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anyway uh walmart was here all still

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coming to cobra on the wing

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good evening gentlemen there he is and

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the other uh in the disclosed location

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is he on a wing and a prayer um you know

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one of each maybe who knows i don't know

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i don't think he knows any prayers but

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well wait a minute i suppose he does

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doesn't he

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also we couldn't let this moment go by

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but we have a very special guest here

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wandering through

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his huge empire the building that is the

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headquarters

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for his huge empire

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pete delconi of the falcone

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entertainment conglomerate no actually

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i'm doing my uh my duty by um

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uh actually witnessing that you guys are

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here yes and live yes and there there's

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no

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guns or drugs or anything in the studio

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while you're doing this you're 50 right

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and we're not wrecking the equipment

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right right right i have to do this

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inspection

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every 90 days come in and make sure that

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everything is cope static with the show

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okay

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yes yes isn't it nice that mr falcone

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has the night off from the illuminati

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yes that's right yeah the meeting they

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must have canceled the meeting yeah they

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did they they let us out early today

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that's good okay because it was a nice

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snack yeah do the illuminati can signal

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first even though it's radio come on

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give me a little money hand signal oh oh

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god oh look at it oh there you go look

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at that exactly wow you got it right

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there those things looked obscene

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running he'd be running germany oh my

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well pete thanks for stopping by my

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pleasure and um talk to you soon yeah my

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other duty here is to make sure that you

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get the fridge stocked so that's right

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okay oh the most important duty gotta

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stop there and check the temperature of

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those bottles okay all right

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pistol pete

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he been stuck with with beer right

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i think he did okay good all right

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could have been iced tea i don't know

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but i think you eat beer he knows better

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than to waste that's a wink and a nod

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right i think he meant the adult

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beverage all right we're off to a great

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start that's right it's exciting already

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it is right you know and we have to just

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keep climbing and climbing um so tonight

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on the show some interesting guess

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authors uh paul bishop who was named

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twice the best detective in los angeles

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county can you imagine that one-on-one

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no i can't and he has a book called is

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he a former gumshoe is that what he was

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yeah you know what they do you know why

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they call people gum shoes

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no but it is a fascinating term tell me

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cobra do you know why they call

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detectives gum shoes

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the first who were the first detectives

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the pinkertons right oh yeah um the

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building that they used to own and that

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and they would put their recruits up to

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train on had a tie roof oh and when it

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was warm it would stick to the bottom of

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their shoes i just heard someone say

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that on that on the news today

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gum shoes means detective anyway this

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comes your best gum shoe in la county

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two years in a row paul bishop the name

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of the book is live catchers i'm

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fascinated about how people get

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interrogated and stuff like that right

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best uh detective in l.a at

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interrogations you know so i told him

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that we're all guilty of something and

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we'll just see if he can figure out we

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can see it in their eyes right he'll

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slap us around over the radio

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also then coming up ben davis is going

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to talk to us he's an author who

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has been looking into uh the military um

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and their involvement if any in alien

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abductions

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they'll be joining us is that the their

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involvement their involvement in you

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know uh you know whether they are

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helping the aliens of black people the

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military shopping alien okay i don't

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well let's see we'll then be surprised

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for both of us

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and um also um rob beckhausen is going

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to be calling in

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to tell us about the largest private air

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force in the world

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the largest private air force there's a

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private air force in the world that has

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dozens if not hundreds of planes how

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many people without giving their name

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how many planes would they have cobra

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uh 100 to 200 tactical type aircraft not

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mentioning their supporter right this is

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an air force that is not affiliated with

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any one country it's a private air force

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rob's going to be telling us about it

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tonight

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michigan about a ufo slash bigfoot

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encounter one of these things you know

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a couple different kind of paranormal

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unified field theory of the paranormal

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on later on talking about that

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um stolen valerie the stolen valley guy

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exactly he was someone who from all

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united states but he went on to write

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claiming that he went to vietnam that he

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uniforms that he just didn't

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earn the right to wear

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that he got at the army nation

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navy star exactly

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he's a very dishonorable guy in other

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ways too he got into her personal life

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soul that's for sure you know but anyway

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that he was going to be on the show in

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canada this coming thursday people of

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the future

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um talk about this and that and

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a bunch of us wrote to the people who

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own the network and we said here's the

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background you know a thumbnail on this

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guy you can go on the internet and find

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out tons more you might want to

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reconsider having this guy on and i get

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an email today that they bounced them

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from oh excellent so

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uh you know that's good one little

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victory and it is good right

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so david round three bounced

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from beauty yeah it was cool it was

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great it was it was really a nice thing

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maybe the word will spread from that

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statement right yeah well anyone who out

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there who hears or sees that this guy's

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gonna be at some conference or on some

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radio show tv show let us know and we're

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on it david roundtree david roundtree

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stolen all you have to do is google

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stolen valid david roundry

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and you'll get this whole on the

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4-1-1 on this character and he's just

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not a nice guy i mean he's he's done

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some really nasty nasty things he

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couldn't get creepier than this guy yeah

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right exactly well pull it

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okay and finally before we go to our

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first commercial break another mystery

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down the mystery airport

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you know that taco truck that yes out

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there yes someone but you've seen it

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down the coburn right absolutely okay

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someone brought a taco down there and it

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was a hundred percent beef

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how about that what yes

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come on what do they like

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i'd like to add that there's been recent

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ufo cattle abductions there could be a

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connection

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hundred percent beef in the taco one one

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you know you think that the vinci code

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is a mystery

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[Laughter]

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remember that we thought about a year

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ago that they someone took pot

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a taco bell taco that was saucy 100

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percent beef right and it was like 12

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this is my little attempted humor on

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well you know there isn't an allowable

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uh byproduct percentage but it's not 75

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yeah right exactly so

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anyway okay

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the last the jokes can only get better

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so why don't we take a commercial break

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i do have byproduct experience too but

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i'll tell you that

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that is definitely another show

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definitely mac aftertalk

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why don't we take a commercial break now

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and when we come back we're going to

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have the fourth and sadly last drawing

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for mcimonies milk

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mac maloney's why do i always

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wingman book 18. book 18 the battle for

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america right

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um we have asked people to

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write to us with a secret word we get a

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bunch of uh

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emails uh in the past week they're now

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in the magic fish bowl

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we're gonna have a very special guest

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picking pulling as they say in the biz

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um

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this week fourth and final week of a

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very successful book giveaway

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so let's take commercial break now and

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when we come back

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we'll get to the uh the pulling as they

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say

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listen to macmillan's military exhaust

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show here on the distant thunder radio

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network right back after this

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over the years air force major hawk

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hunter and his band of patriotic fighter

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pilots have fought tirelessly to reunite

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a fractured american devastated by a

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russian sneak attack

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now returning from a mysterious space

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odyssey hunter finds a huge russian army

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occupying new york city ready to invade

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the rest of america buzzing through the

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city's skyscraper canyons in a tiny

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top-secret ghost plane and seeing the

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invader's massive weaponry for himself

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pock realizes he's up against the

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greatest danger his homeland has ever

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faced

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but equally alarming are reports

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claiming that hawke's former girlfriend

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dominique is living with the head of the

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russian secret police in a manhattan

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penthouse

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is she is prisoner or is she something

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else

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with the woman in the country he loves

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in dire peril hawk hunter the wingman

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will apply all his aviation prowess to

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launch the most crucial battle for

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america yet no matter what the risks

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filled with fast-paced action a wide

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range of aircraft and military hardware

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battle for america brings back your

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favorite characters from earlier books

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in the wingman series and delivers a

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riveting story that reveals new insight

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on america's most famous hero the

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wingman

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on sale now at amazon.com and available

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at your local bookstore

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hi i'm andrew schwarzenegger and you are

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listening to mac maloney's military

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exiles show on distinct under radio

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network

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welcome back everyone to mcmoney's no

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tracks our show here on the distant

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thunder

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radio networks man

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in the studio with us tonight one one

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the very famous one one is hello mac

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how's it going 13th week in a row that's

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right

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lucky 13. very good lucky 13.

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and also in the disclosed location one

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studio behind us

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through bulletproof class command cobras

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here

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and two lock connected to lock doors and

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is it bulletproof so that he won't shoot

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us or what

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yes of course

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to lock those we have one key he has

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another case it's just like the nuclear

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codes you guys have tournament tandem

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right

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also so now very uh exciting part of the

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show

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we have now the

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fourth and final book a giveaway poll as

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they called in the biz we have the names

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of some lucky listeners

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who are nice enough to uh nice enough to

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have emailed us we have put their names

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in cities into the magic fish ball

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and we're going to pull five of their

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names and they will receive a copy a

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book an actual book

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wingman 18 battle for america

367
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wigman 18 battle for america so um very

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successful so far so

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we should go out in a bang

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which means that our special guest now

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let's see the first week we had the

372
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lovely lois lane here doing it oh she

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was awesome

374
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um the second week we had the ghost of

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jfk was here doing it floating around

376
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uh last week we had my tran the number

377
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one asian model cover model that's right

378
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she's awesome and you can get beaten up

379
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by her bodyguard yeah right yes right

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exactly

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uh so now to um you know to pull the

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curtain down

383
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who do we have special guests there's a

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friend from across the street

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gum drops the great dane

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she's here

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he we met when he tried to attack me two

388
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weeks ago

389
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well i was all getting a breath of fresh

390
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air no way yep

391
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so last week the uh secret word was

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gumdrops and all of

393
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the people who uh

394
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brought into us

395
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uh put gum drops i don't think he likes

396
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you he's kind of like a little irritated

397
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yeah he looks alright

398
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do you have a treat for a mac yeah i got

399
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a treat for him all right

400
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anyway so what we're gonna do is we're

401
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gonna somehow uh we're gonna have uh

402
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gumdrops the great dane

403
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thank you for joining us here gum can i

404
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call you gum

405
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yeah okay all right

406
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okay

407
00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:29,040
hey listen mackie likes you yeah

408
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your owner is pretty hot over there do

409
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you um

410
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anything you thought about that

411
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where was it hot oh boy

412
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hang on who's spade and who's neutered

413
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i can tell they they've they gave you

414
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the operation right the gumdrops yeah

415
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right yeah yeah they did it

416
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okay

417
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yeah

418
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at it this way you can always lick

419
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yourself a lot of things you know not

420
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many animals you know the old dogs why

421
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the dogs lick themselves

422
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first time i have a rim shot for a dog

423
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okay why don't we get to this get on

424
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with it let's get on with it okay please

425
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uh

426
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gum drops pick the first

427
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the first name out and you can hand it

428
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to me oh look at that very talented with

429
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the paw work yeah the power goes right

430
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yeah why is he lifting his legs

431
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not here not in the studio pistol pretty

432
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good i've been trained uh first i could

433
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have been a police dog but i flanked the

434
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academy yeah right i kind of believe

435
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that for some reason

436
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um okay our first winner is bob ingles

437
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that's me doing a chimpanzee

438
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i do impressions too you know

439
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we'll be the judge of that just because

440
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i think the academy doesn't mean i can't

441
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make a living listen

442
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uh the magic fishbowl got hacked again

443
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as you may know gumdrops so i heard

444
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about that yeah take a chance and uh

445
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take the next one right

446
00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:11,519
no no no no you might want to do it with

447
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okay so

448
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gumdrop still needs a few more weeks in

449
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training

450
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interesting there you go hopefully a

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he's laughing

452
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[Music]

453
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that [\h__\h] lassie brooklyn the yarn

454
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that's a hat that was a hack

455
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no no no just the

456
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yeah it's the ones with the yeah that's

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right

458
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gumdrops needs a little more training in

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the ball as they say

460
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okay our second real winner

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mike santoro goffstown new hampshire wow

462
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in new hampshire goffstown new hampshire

463
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is that there is no backyard really mike

464
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santero i think i have pete in that

465
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very nice yard

466
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there's some yellow spots in there for

467
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so long

468
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okay go ahead uh gum drops pick number

469
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three okay here we go number three from

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the

471
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thank you

472
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three free copy of wingman 18.

473
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battle for america

474
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i'm sure they'll just sell right out

475
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after this

476
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no worries bruce vogel of floral park

477
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new york

478
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[Music]

479
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upstairs oh here's bruce calling us now

480
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is that cub drops on it

481
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did you get permission

482
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oh

483
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wow

484
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i'm dropping a little swig of coffee

485
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there okay

486
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gum if you can pick the next one

487
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he has picked it

488
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i don't know how our fish bowl keeps

489
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getting hacked but it it does we have to

490
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our next winner is

491
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fido mcdribbles pick me up new jersey

492
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let's see once again i know him

493
00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:32,390
um okay

494
00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:34,640
thank you gumdrops our next real winner

495
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oh wow massachusetts peter morrell peter

496
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of everett max evan kind of down the

497
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street

498
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you're the only one

499
00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:50,789
that's uh close to your hometown there

500
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,760
cobra

501
00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:53,840
yes it is

502
00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:55,520
everett where they're building a one

503
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billion dollar casino do you know that

504
00:19:01,029 --> 00:18:59,360
gumdrop yes

505
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:01,039
can't wait for that to happen i can't

506
00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:03,600
wait to ride the roulette wheel

507
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:05,679
yes

508
00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:07,840
okay i always play number nine do you

509
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:10,080
really because you're a well because i

510
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:11,840
drop a deuce on the number nine so it

511
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works for me

512
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:14,000
okay

513
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,000
a little more dog human there

514
00:19:19,270 --> 00:19:18,000
maybe caesar milan would laugh at that

515
00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:19,280
joke

516
00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:21,520
okay our next winner is i can't hear the

517
00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:23,120
dog whisper he whispers too much that's

518
00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:24,880
true

519
00:19:32,549 --> 00:19:27,200
and rin tintin's bastard son

520
00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:34,230
well

521
00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:35,840
uh you know what they say nobody knows

522
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:37,280
you're a dog on the internet that's

523
00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:42,070
please can you find one in there for me

524
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,710
paul's getting stuck in the bowl okay

525
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:52,630
nate buckman of boynton beach florida

526
00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:57,909
you're all right there you go

527
00:20:01,430 --> 00:20:00,000
okay so i will re-read these and then

528
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:01,440
you can go out and

529
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:03,039
visit as many fire hydrants as you want

530
00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:03,919
yeah

531
00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:06,799
i gotta go man okay hang on

532
00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:08,559
okay so our winners um they'll be

533
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:11,919
getting daddy where do babies come from

534
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:15,919
uh well uh honey mommy went to the store

535
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:18,720
oh well you see um well there's a mommy

536
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:21,760
and a daddy right right and see when

537
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:24,720
they call geico uh they could save a

538
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,480
bunch of money on car insurance oh

539
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:28,799
really and that makes them happy yes

540
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,360
that makes them very happy that's good

541
00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:33,360
yeah well i'm glad we could have this

542
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:34,720
talk sunshine

543
00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:37,120
geico because saving 15 or more on car

544
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:39,200
insurance is always the great answer

545
00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:41,760
copy of mcmalone's military no why do i

546
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,400
keep saying that uh gumdrops do you know

547
00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:46,320
i don't know man where's your head at i

548
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:48,080
am not

549
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:50,320
um let my master describe what book it

550
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,880
is that you're trying okay

551
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,880
mac maloney wingman

552
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:56,480
book number 18

553
00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:59,039
battle for america for crying out loud

554
00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:01,360
okay i mean you you wrote so many books

555
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,559
you just can't keep track of it you're

556
00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:04,240
such a prolific author you're like i

557
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:05,679
guess that's the reason

558
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:08,000
so our winners tonight have been bob

559
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:10,480
ingles from kennesaw georgia mike

560
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:12,400
santoro from goffstown new hampshire

561
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:15,280
congrats mike congrats bob mate buckman

562
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:17,520
from boynton beach florida nate buck way

563
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:19,360
to go nate

564
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:22,080
peter morrell from everett bass

565
00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:23,600
really close by

566
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:25,679
and bruce on the orange line i'm sure

567
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:27,840
yes somewhere there bruce vogel from

568
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,720
floral park new york which i think is in

569
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:33,039
on long island i'm not sure officially

570
00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:34,400
the orange line doesn't pass through

571
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:36,559
everett it's not as close as medford

572
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:38,480
yeah you're right okay

573
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,840
you know he's always correcting me this

574
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:41,520
guy yeah no real boston talk there

575
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:42,400
though

576
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,000
you got points for that last time he was

577
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,840
on the orange line was probably 25 years

578
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:47,440
ago

579
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,440
i want to thank everyone who uh wrote in

580
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:51,120
for the free book giveaway really

581
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,039
appreciate it i should know so many

582
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:54,960
people out there are listening in and

583
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:57,120
take the time to email us so

584
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:58,559
uh we'll have to have another contest

585
00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:01,280
sometime they want one and do this

586
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:02,720
yep meet soon

587
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:04,880
we'll give away some of your old books

588
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:06,559
that's a good idea then i'd make

589
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,669
sorry for that idea

590
00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:15,360
so why don't we do this why don't we

591
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,840
take a they all can't be win is one one

592
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:20,080
you know what i mean right right okay

593
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,000
you know sometimes impressions go well

594
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:24,480
sometimes they don't you know phil yeba

595
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,799
before comedian is the

596
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:28,320
expert on that apparently that's right

597
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:29,760
he is dead here he's got a lot of

598
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:31,440
practice so

599
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:33,520
but thank you gumdrops for stopping by

600
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:35,280
and uh

601
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:38,080
yep lightening up the show okay

602
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:41,200
i will bring you back to your master and

603
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,880
see what happens then so

604
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:44,960
when we take a commercial break now and

605
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:47,760
um we'll be right back with

606
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:49,039
another fascinating guest you're

607
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:50,320
listening to mac money's mild track

608
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:52,000
style show here on the distant thunder

609
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:54,320
radio network we'll be right back after

610
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,360
this ufos are found in renaissance art

611
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:59,360
on ancient coins and etched on cave

612
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:00,799
walls

613
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,200
they are even reported in the bible

614
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:05,360
but more surprising is when ufos are

615
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:06,640
seen the most

616
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:09,440
in times of war

617
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:11,360
through centuries thousands of ufo

618
00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:13,039
sightings have been made by high-ranking

619
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,520
officials military pilots and ordinary

620
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,919
soldiers often these fantastic

621
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:19,919
appearances occur at the height of great

622
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:21,120
battles

623
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:23,840
from world war one to d-day to korea

624
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,159
vietnam and beyond military

625
00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:28,799
investigators are baffled why do ufo

626
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:30,559
sightings spike so drastically during

627
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:31,679
wartime

628
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:34,320
could it be mistaken aircraft or someone

629
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:37,520
or something looking in on us

630
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:40,080
in ufos in wartime what they didn't want

631
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:42,000
you to know mcmaloney chronicles

632
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,600
centuries of these incredible sightings

633
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,600
and tries to solve the puzzle of why so

634
00:23:49,270 --> 00:23:48,000
many ufos are seen while humanity is at

635
00:23:51,270 --> 00:23:49,280
war

636
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,280
read about the scare ships the ghost

637
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:53,840
planes and the ghost rockets alien

638
00:23:59,270 --> 00:23:56,720
giants in the jungles of vietnam ufos

639
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:59,280
controlling our icbm bases

640
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:01,120
dogfights with flying saucers during the

641
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:03,120
gulf war and more

642
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:06,480
300 pages of unbelievable stories along

643
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:08,640
with many startling photographs

644
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,279
that's ufos and wartime what they didn't

645
00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:14,000
want you to know by mac maloney on sale

646
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:18,310
at your local bookstore or on amazon.com

647
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,870
hi i'm sean connery and when i'm in new

648
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:32,799
england i listen to the mac maloney

649
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,400
military x-file show on distant thunder

650
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:37,840
radio network

651
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:41,330
and i get my fashion sense from one one

652
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:43,360
[Music]

653
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:44,559
hey welcome back everyone to back with

654
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,000
mommy's military exhaust show here on

655
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,480
the distant thunder radio networks

656
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:49,919
in the studio with us tonight the very

657
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:51,840
famous one one is here hello mark good

658
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:54,400
show sophie he is uh 13 weeks in a row

659
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:56,880
and wearing his patriots hat for you

660
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,120
those used following at home our

661
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:01,360
previous guest really zapped you uh on

662
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,200
the tom brady thing didn't he i know it

663
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,600
he kind of made me feel inappropriate

664
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,039
weird okay

665
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:09,520
also with us uh commander cobra in the

666
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:11,520
disclosed location right back of us one

667
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:12,880
studio over

668
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:15,279
cobra are you on the way secure location

669
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:16,320
good evening

670
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:17,360
okay

671
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:20,000
um and on the phone with us

672
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:21,840
um

673
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,480
is ben davis who is an author his latest

674
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:26,960
book is ti versus a.i

675
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,400
targeted targeting individuals versus

676
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,240
artificial intelligence

677
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,159
uh his previous book was something

678
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:34,240
called it's about time incident at fort

679
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:35,039
polk

680
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,640
uh two very interesting subjects we're

681
00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,799
gonna talk to him now ben how you doing

682
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:40,400
i'm doing pretty good let's go down with

683
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:42,080
bar have a beer talk about the carpet

684
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:43,360
layers what's he trying to do he's

685
00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:44,400
trying to

686
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,400
mock our accents

687
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,480
as if we had an accent

688
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:50,559
you could ever get this

689
00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,880
the rest of the country has accents

690
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:54,799
he sounds like he sounds like jason

691
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,200
aldean or something like that right here

692
00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:59,600
is deep southern yep yeah where are you

693
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:01,760
calling from uh now i'm calling from

694
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,640
daytona beach florida oh okay oh daytona

695
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:06,640
yes that's right excellent yeah that's a

696
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,480
tough place to be calling from yeah yeah

697
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,320
they let you they still let um let

698
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,000
people drive on the beach drive cars on

699
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:13,760
the beach there oh yeah but you gotta

700
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:16,080
pay to do it well you do really yeah

701
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:17,520
went down to a you know labor day

702
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:20,240
weekend or if you're a local you could

703
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,799
pay like 30 for the whole year all right

704
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:24,640
okay all right i went down there for a

705
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,840
labor day weekend when they used to have

706
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:27,360
like the college you know blow up before

707
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:28,640
school

708
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,640
it was unbelievable at the first one we

709
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:31,919
get there and i go wow they let you

710
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,000
drive on the beach it was yeah cool

711
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,320
regular cars yeah right regular cars the

712
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,000
parking lot is the beach and then um it

713
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:39,840
was part of the track just kind of like

714
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:42,159
you know girls in bikinis and stuff it

715
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:43,679
was everything you can imagine it was

716
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:46,159
like a frankie avalon movie

717
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:48,720
yeah i've been here since

718
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:51,679
89 i believe and uh

719
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:53,440
yeah i think i've been to the beach ten

720
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,080
times really yeah by shocks

721
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:58,559
yeah it's a it's a it's a tourist trap

722
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:00,559
to me oh okay yeah well i can see that

723
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:03,440
you know we can't park anywhere um

724
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,440
you have to have a permit like if you're

725
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,600
local to uh you know like if you have an

726
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:09,279
apartment or rental home or something

727
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,720
you gotta have a permit to park on your

728
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,880
street wow oh that's a little bit too

729
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,080
much so if you're visiting you can't

730
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:15,760
park anywhere you need to

731
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:17,840
yeah that's true hitchhike too so what

732
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,000
got you interested in this uh well this

733
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,240
this line of investigation

734
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,320
well it started out when i was in the

735
00:27:28,390 --> 00:27:26,240
service and um

736
00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:28,400
when i was stationed at fort polk

737
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,039
that was the day the vietnam war ended

738
00:27:34,390 --> 00:27:33,600
march 28-75

739
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:34,400
and

740
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:36,480
it was like there wasn't a war going on

741
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,840
so

742
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:39,200
um

743
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,080
i had broken my leg in

744
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:43,919
off-duty hours playing what they call

745
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:46,240
combat football okay

746
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,360
and it was

747
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:49,200
got a guy by the name of dave pushard

748
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:50,880
who was from maine by the way he was a

749
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,310
yeah and uh so the guys decided to

750
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:00,399
get me out of the barracks for a while

751
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,480
because i've been all you know i was not

752
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,320
given convalescently which is usually

753
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:06,559
what they do but they were trying to

754
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,200
profile me as a

755
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,120
uh making an example out of me because

756
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:12,960
there's a lot of mess

757
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:15,520
messed up stuff going on at times okay

758
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,640
so

759
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,720
these guys decided to grab me and take

760
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:21,120
me on a four-day pass which i went with

761
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:21,919
and

762
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,880
it was on friday the 14th we passed the

763
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,080
uh

764
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:28,320
the state line from louisiana into texas

765
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:31,600
on i-20 westbound and jj the

766
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:33,120
african-american fellow next to me said

767
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:34,559
hey man look at that i said look up

768
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:36,159
where i'm looking to look and he said oh

769
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,880
rick right there oh wow

770
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:41,120
and it wasn't a helicopter it wasn't an

771
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:44,240
airplane it was stationary

772
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:47,440
it was probably 50 60 000 or higher feet

773
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,880
altitude okay

774
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:50,399
at the time guessing and then all of a

775
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,720
sudden it zigzag dropped like a rock and

776
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:54,799
it was right on top of us

777
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:55,600
okay

778
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,520
yeah then a bright white light come out

779
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,279
and that's the last thing

780
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:01,679
uh jj and i uh

781
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,240
saw for about 10 or 12 hours well wait a

782
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,159
minute okay so was this day or night

783
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:08,000
that this happened this was right at

784
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:09,919
sundown okay all right

785
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:11,520
now when you say you didn't know you

786
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:13,279
mean you had 12 hours of missing time or

787
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,320
whatever

788
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,080
more like 10 i think it was really 10

789
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:18,960
out yeah well okay all right and uh what

790
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,960
bad did you go to drink at and you know

791
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,399
pass out i mean that's what usually

792
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:24,960
happens like a missing time when we woke

793
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,240
up at a wichita kansas

794
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:30,159
truck shop the guys in the front of

795
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,080
course they didn't have king cabs in the

796
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,320
day and era okay we wrote in the back in

797
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,480
a sleeping bag and all i had a cast on i

798
00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:38,159
couldn't get in front anyway

799
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:40,159
um they shook and say man what the heck

800
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:42,240
is wrong with you guys uh we tried to

801
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:44,720
wake you up on the last two gas stops

802
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:45,600
wow

803
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:47,919
me me and jj looked at each other and we

804
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:49,600
could hear each other's thoughts without

805
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:52,000
saying a word telepathically hmm

806
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,440
what was he saying

807
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:55,279
yeah it was like wow we were still

808
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:57,279
coming down off of a troop

809
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,480
so what happened

810
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:00,399
yeah we were what happened

811
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:04,000
we uh we were taken to the future okay

812
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:07,760
and uh we were shown the year 2026. okay

813
00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:08,960
all right

814
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,799
and the devastation and the horrific uh

815
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:14,720
alternate timeline you might want to

816
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:16,559
call it all right

817
00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:19,360
of what can happen or what

818
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:21,840
won't happen seriously

819
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,440
you're offered the blue pill you can

820
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:25,919
wake up the mar be expendable or you can

821
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:27,600
take the red pill and you can wake up

822
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:31,279
tomorrow and and make it make history by

823
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,240
changing

824
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:35,039
the the timeline okay all right

825
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,799
i was shown certain events that would

826
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,320
occur they all

827
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:40,240
happened they all came to pass and and

828
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:41,360
for

829
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:44,320
uh being uh tossed out of the military

830
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:47,120
instead of honorably yes um yeah i

831
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,760
decided to take the red pill

832
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,760
and do something about it and three this

833
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:53,120
um

834
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:55,039
i guess abduction you would call it

835
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,000
right

836
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,399
um and i'm still up in the air whether

837
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:00,799
or not if it was real or not because of

838
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,679
the mind control right this is what the

839
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:05,679
new book is all about mm-hmm

840
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:06,880
when you went into the future you didn't

841
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,720
go to a race track did you paying jim i

842
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:10,559
wish

843
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,360
i mean

844
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,440
bill elliot was a a

845
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,360
motocross back in my day and there

846
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,039
before the military

847
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:19,039
and uh you know he kicked me off my bike

848
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:20,159
one day and

849
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:21,600
i followed him into the pits and beat

850
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:23,440
the living crap out of it well

851
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:25,039
now he went into nashville i said now

852
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:26,640
you know what it's the true story about

853
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:28,480
bill he's

854
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:30,640
he's a competitor right

855
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,960
so so i know cobra has a bunch of

856
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:34,320
questions i'm going to ask the first one

857
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:35,760
i'm going to turn it over to him so what

858
00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:37,760
happened at fort polk okay what is the

859
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:40,559
incident at fort polk okay um

860
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:42,240
from the abduction

861
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,080
um me and

862
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:46,880
jj and three other fellas that weren't

863
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:49,519
with us they they had a similar instance

864
00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:52,480
where like an older showed up and

865
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:54,159
and they woke up the next morning which

866
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,760
is about the same time we woke up the

867
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,320
next day so we were separately

868
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,480
abducted or taken or whatever

869
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:02,320
um and then we were

870
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:05,279
all together all at once four days later

871
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,279
and talking about it and we recorded it

872
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,919
on tape video technology about uh

873
00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:11,120
cassette tape

874
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:12,480
and um

875
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,360
and we spoke each other's minds on what

876
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,279
we thought we saw

877
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:20,159
and then we all decided that this is a

878
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:23,440
mission that these benevolent et's

879
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,200
wanted us to do physically because

880
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:27,360
they're not physical form

881
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:30,480
uh so i took it at the time and and by

882
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:33,360
doing this thing uh you know we would

883
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:34,880
alter the timeline

884
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,840
and i was to write a book in about 50

885
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:39,120
years time

886
00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:43,039
which is still nine years away um

887
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,039
and it was supposed to change history

888
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,440
and save humanity from extinction that's

889
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,120
what we've

890
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:51,200
pretty much shown

891
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:53,840
and this was in the year 2026

892
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,120
yep

893
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:57,200
how did you know it was 2026

894
00:33:02,630 --> 00:32:58,720
because that's uh

895
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:02,640
the 50 years from 1976 to 2026. all

896
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,840
right

897
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:05,760
okay and that makes sense to me and i

898
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:07,279
started writing

899
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:10,320
when i was about 50 you know and there's

900
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:11,120
the

901
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:14,880
could have been

902
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:16,480
i was supposed to start writing then

903
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:18,559
which i did anyway i've always wanted to

904
00:33:23,909 --> 00:33:21,120
become a writer i started young

905
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,919
uh i had legit perthes disease which is

906
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,440
like forest gump had to wear them leg

907
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:27,679
braces you know yeah and my mother kept

908
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,120
me tutored educated self-taught uh

909
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:33,279
homeschool if you want to call it and

910
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:36,799
and uh the encyclopedia britannica all

911
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:39,440
26 volumes webster's dictionary every

912
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:40,559
single word

913
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,200
before i was 11 years old

914
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:47,840
so i started very young and educating

915
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:49,200
myself

916
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:50,720
my goodness

917
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:54,320
so ben if i understand this

918
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:55,760
you're saying

919
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,640
your experience the et's knew

920
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:00,720
that the army

921
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:03,360
was delving into a

922
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:06,799
path with a weapon system and technology

923
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,040
it was their enemies the the

924
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:12,000
malevolent et's okay so

925
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:13,040
yeah that's the part i was trying to

926
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:14,159
bring out because if i remember

927
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:15,200
correctly

928
00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:17,359
uh when i heard and i've heard you once

929
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:19,599
before and and a little bit i've read on

930
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:20,480
this one

931
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:22,240
i was stationed in louisiana so there's

932
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:24,960
always been some fun uh associated with

933
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:27,280
fort polk uh it's just it's a crazy part

934
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:29,200
of the of the swamp area that the lots

935
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:30,480
of stuff have gone on there's been a lot

936
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:31,839
of classified missions that have worked

937
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:33,440
out of that part that's true actually

938
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:35,359
with the reservations fort polk is the

939
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:36,639
largest

940
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:40,159
military facility in the country

941
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:42,240
it's got two forks you got north fork

942
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,320
and you got southport it's something

943
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:45,679
like

944
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,599
120 000

945
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:49,440
square acres or something like that i

946
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:50,960
forgot what it was but it was the

947
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:53,440
largest facility uh and they even had a

948
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,480
bombing range yeah that does miles you

949
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,400
know yeah i think it's the largest

950
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:01,040
of of land mass there's a couple areas

951
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:02,560
that are a little bit larger like egglin

952
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,839
and a few of the other complexes but

953
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:06,160
they include offshore ranges so i think

954
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:07,440
you may be correct on the landmass

955
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:09,599
portion of it so you have

956
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:12,240
you have intervention um

957
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:14,960
with uh benevolent et's

958
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:17,359
trying to thwart the plans

959
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:19,280
right did you ever get any understanding

960
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,280
how the contact was made or when the

961
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:23,520
contact was made with the

962
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:24,960
um

963
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:25,920
with the

964
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:31,520
do you have any uh understanding of that

965
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,760
i i have no clue all i know is i didn't

966
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:35,760
even know what star trek was at the time

967
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,920
i saw a loss of space you know

968
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:39,680
like in high school or something it was

969
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:42,880
kind of fun to watch yeah um and

970
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:45,680
in the in the sad thing about it is

971
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:49,040
um i'm deeply connected to

972
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:51,520
florida politics family name

973
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:54,800
my great uncle my late great uncle was w

974
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:56,560
turner davis

975
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,040
um he was past president of the florida

976
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:01,200
senate in 1955

977
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:02,800
whose father

978
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,000
charles e davis was president of the

979
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:08,800
florida senate in 1915

980
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:11,119
or maybe he was fourteen high five which

981
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:13,839
and his brother was the chief justice

982
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:16,320
for the supreme court of florida wow

983
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,920
i bet you never got a speeding ticket

984
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:20,240
did you did you have no i mean my father

985
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:22,240
was world war ii navy frog man that was

986
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,880
a secret program oh nice yeah yep

987
00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:26,480
if it hadn't been for the frog man we

988
00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:28,000
would have lost the water

989
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:33,670
[Music]

990
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:34,880
12 11

991
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,390
do you speak at different um you know

992
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:44,720
events do you go to events and give

993
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,599
lectures and stuff spreading the word or

994
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:49,200
i've been

995
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,160
undiscovered until just this year

996
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:55,119
last friday i was on radio show invited

997
00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:56,880
by uh

998
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:57,839
sean

999
00:37:01,910 --> 00:36:59,200
david

1000
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:01,920
morton who wrote the uh chance of time

1001
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:03,200
trilogy

1002
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:04,720
and he was he was

1003
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:06,880
astounded that wow where have you been i

1004
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:07,599
said

1005
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:08,960
i've been underneath the radar been

1006
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:10,240
hiding from the government they scared

1007
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:11,839
the crap out of me they told me they

1008
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:13,040
were going to kill me my whole fam

1009
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,640
family you know

1010
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,800
if uh if i ever told them what happened

1011
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,720
before pull right

1012
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:20,720
and since then i've had several attempts

1013
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:23,520
in my life in fact they tried every day

1014
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:26,720
it's uh it's electronic yep it's

1015
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,400
biological and it's psychological

1016
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,880
warfare yes yes how long has this been

1017
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:32,320
going on how long

1018
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:34,960
well my entire life really yeah

1019
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,240
all right so do you think there's a

1020
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,160
connection between that and the fact

1021
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:40,079
that you were you know you have 12

1022
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,839
missing hours were you we asked this

1023
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:43,920
question all the time when people uh you

1024
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:45,760
know have interaction with aliens are

1025
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:46,560
they

1026
00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:48,160
just randomly selected or do you think

1027
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,839
the aliens know who they're going after

1028
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,680
if you know them i think they know who

1029
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:53,440
they go after because the military knows

1030
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:56,240
who they go after when i uh was

1031
00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:57,599
uh

1032
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:01,599
select a service act letter

1033
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,480
dropped out of college i was 18 uh 19

1034
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:06,480
years old because i had gone to college

1035
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,680
a little bit

1036
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:09,839
and when i dropped out 30 days later i

1037
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:11,920
get the letter my trap number was four i

1038
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:13,359
was going

1039
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,640
vietnam wasn't over yet so my

1040
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:20,079
brother-in-law suggested well why don't

1041
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:21,760
you go down to the recruiters and they

1042
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:24,079
got new cash bonus programs coming in

1043
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:24,960
and

1044
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,359
of their tests at 95 on the fourth one

1045
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:33,280
so they kind of raise the flag of the

1046
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:36,160
pentagon right okay two kind of guys

1047
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:37,520
that we need for

1048
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,000
these special programs right at the time

1049
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,040
i've just done 18 19 year old

1050
00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:45,599
you know i just i didn't want to

1051
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,359
there was no job that's when the economy

1052
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,680
collapsed right big old thing you know i

1053
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:51,520
remember pumping gas at 19 cents a

1054
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:54,160
gallon and it went up to 45. yeah right

1055
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:55,599
i remember that too

1056
00:39:02,630 --> 00:38:59,760
yeah i mean i was uh she was 301 a month

1057
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,640
whoa wow okay that's another i need to

1058
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,800
yeah now ben

1059
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:06,000
can you

1060
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,440
have you still had contact with the

1061
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,599
vanilla et's or did they kind of give

1062
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,280
you your set of instructions and you've

1063
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:13,440
been working from the original template

1064
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:15,119
well they told me pretty much that i

1065
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:18,000
would be 50 years in the making and i

1066
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,960
would recognize signs

1067
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:23,200
and they have all occurred in fact can

1068
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:25,359
you discuss some of those well one of

1069
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,640
them was i was supposed to meet a

1070
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:28,160
mexican woman who's supposed to give me

1071
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,880
a

1072
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:30,960
why hold on

1073
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,240
sorry a mexican me employed a woman and

1074
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,000
and i was supposed to have been giving

1075
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,920
birth a female child and i was the name

1076
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:39,440
of crystal and all that came to pass

1077
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:40,640
she's also

1078
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:44,560
an e6 in the us air force wow okay and

1079
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:47,040
i'm a grandpa twice so so i'm not saying

1080
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,320
it's the end of the world i'm just

1081
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,000
saying it's the end of humanity right

1082
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:52,400
okay if we don't stop what the heck is

1083
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,320
going on in fact what you see every day

1084
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:56,480
on television is all roost well you got

1085
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:58,160
that right baby

1086
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,920
it's the best front you could ever get i

1087
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:01,440
am with you there people find out the

1088
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,920
truth um are you are you married now or

1089
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,280
have you been married

1090
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:07,200
yeah i'm married um

1091
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:08,560
been married uh

1092
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:12,800
since 2007 okay all right and uh five

1093
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:15,119
years ago my wife was diagnosed with

1094
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:16,640
breast cancer

1095
00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:18,720
and because she works as a dietitian is

1096
00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:19,839
in the health

1097
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:22,320
okay kevin for the grand prize of one

1098
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,280
million dollars what color is the white

1099
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,440
house um

1100
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:30,000
i know this i know this i know this

1101
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:30,880
um

1102
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,800
five seconds oh

1103
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:34,400
switching to geico could save you a

1104
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:36,640
bunch of money on car insurance

1105
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:37,599
okay

1106
00:40:41,310 --> 00:40:39,280
judges

1107
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:41,320
that's true kevin

1108
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,880
congratulations you're a winner

1109
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,800
geico because saving fifteen percent or

1110
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:48,800
more on car insurance is always a great

1111
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,640
answer care industry if you wanted them

1112
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,520
off she didn't want a second opinion and

1113
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,280
you know the health care

1114
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,880
i mean it's still a major issue about

1115
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:58,800
health care i mean they're they keep us

1116
00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:01,040
broke is she still with us is your wife

1117
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,240
still with us

1118
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:04,560
yeah okay i'll be glad to hear that so

1119
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:06,160
what does she i just want to ask you

1120
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:07,599
what does she think about this you know

1121
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,560
what i mean i mean you must have

1122
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,560
discussed it with her right the missing

1123
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:12,079
time and so on and then you're writing i

1124
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:14,000
think she's scared of death

1125
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:14,960
because

1126
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:17,040
she thinks i'm the blame for her breast

1127
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:18,079
cancer

1128
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:19,280
and here's here's the part the other

1129
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:21,520
part is i wrote another book it's called

1130
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:22,880
the pink mile

1131
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:25,359
it's about big pharma and what they do

1132
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:28,240
to everybody yes including every drug

1133
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:30,880
that you see on ads on television every

1134
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,119
single day they're there for this or

1135
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,200
that the other you know anti-depressants

1136
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:37,680
you know you got the oh the cialis and

1137
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:39,839
the viagra's and then you got

1138
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:41,200
the the

1139
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,720
you know the stomachache stuff and yes

1140
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:46,160
well here's here's what i determined

1141
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:48,160
because i did the research after i got

1142
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,760
my degree in creative writing for

1143
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:51,599
entertainment yes all right

1144
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,200
well um

1145
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:55,520
the research part came down the common

1146
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:58,400
denominator you have three common

1147
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:01,440
drugs yes actually toxic chemicals you

1148
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,520
got cyanide yep sodium cyanide and you

1149
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:08,160
have rat poison and the rest of it yes

1150
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,839
and every pill no matter what you get

1151
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,839
from any doctor has

1152
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:13,520
a little bit of that little touch of

1153
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:16,079
each of those three things dma says that

1154
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:17,119
to

1155
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:20,560
something else

1156
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:23,119
right and your brain's gonna go to that

1157
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:26,240
instead of over here that's nonsense

1158
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,160
i mean it's never ever ever been like

1159
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,480
that before let's see the rockefellers

1160
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,480
of the world uh you know took over

1161
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,480
control of big farmers right that's why

1162
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:36,640
they make pot illegal and make all these

1163
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:37,440
other

1164
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:38,800
uh you know

1165
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,680
drugs illegal because supposedly

1166
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,440
that's the part of the brain that you

1167
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,240
want to have help with instead of the

1168
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:47,920
way around wow are you in the right

1169
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:50,400
place you know what i saw today i saw a

1170
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:51,680
little bit of what he's what ben's

1171
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,240
talking about it was a list of what

1172
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:56,640
drugs cost okay at different drug stores

1173
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,839
cvs is this walmart pharmacies this this

1174
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:02,160
and i wasn't so much interested in the

1175
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,079
drugs with the class except for one

1176
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,640
everything most of the stuff is like

1177
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,319
your high blood pressure it's going to

1178
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:10,560
be 50 bucks okay it's going to be 40

1179
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:12,720
here it's going to be the most expensive

1180
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,319
of them all was viagra it's 300.

1181
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:18,240
it's 300 for a six-pack and you got to

1182
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:19,760
buy a six-pack so you gotta buy six pack

1183
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:21,760
of beer and a six-pack of vayne yeah but

1184
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:24,560
let me give you that 300 bucks viagra

1185
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:36,309
medicines for a lot cheaper but but

1186
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:38,240
then you go looking at the ingredients

1187
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:39,680
now this is how you do the ingredients

1188
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:41,839
you go to wikipedia and you look up the

1189
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:44,000
drug right and then you have to open up

1190
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,880
like maybe 50 different web browsers

1191
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:48,560
that connect to each other and by the

1192
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,800
time you come to the common denominator

1193
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,560
you still have the arsenic cyanide and

1194
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:54,480
sodium sauna wow so no matter what you

1195
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,119
get generic or is how much you want to

1196
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,119
pay so you're still there you're still

1197
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,760
paying to poison yourself right that's

1198
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:03,359
the whole the whole trick about it

1199
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:04,319
that's

1200
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:08,960
they still light up after years right

1201
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:10,000
right

1202
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:11,359
well you know

1203
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,640
everything's a little screwed up these

1204
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,400
days you know um

1205
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:16,160
what do you do is this your full-time

1206
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:17,839
job being an author and a researcher or

1207
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:19,040
do you have a

1208
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:23,680
it is now um i hit 62 and and i i pulled

1209
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:27,119
out my retirement and i get 418 a month

1210
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,720
the rest of my life what did you do what

1211
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:30,720
was your profession before all this i

1212
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:33,200
was a master paper hanger painter

1213
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:34,880
vinyl wall covering installer a

1214
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:37,119
renovated hotels like i said earlier

1215
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,720
before the show

1216
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:40,160
and i traveled all over the country in

1217
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,839
fact i've been all over 48 it took me 35

1218
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:45,359
years to do it right and i've done that

1219
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:47,839
for 37 years it's good money i mean

1220
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:50,560
i make 100 grand a year and and and the

1221
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,720
the bottom line is when when the work

1222
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:54,400
runs out it's like feast or famine you

1223
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,119
know

1224
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,359
you you gotta get it when you can right

1225
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:59,839
it'll beat you to death and and uh i did

1226
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:01,040
a hundred and

1227
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,200
well let's see i did 145 days in a row

1228
00:45:07,710 --> 00:45:05,760
since the hurricane last year yep and

1229
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:07,720
the year before that i did

1230
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,640
271 days and that's nine months in a row

1231
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,480
10 hours a day i don't know a

1232
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,319
professional athlete that can do that

1233
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:16,800
right hey you know um we were talking to

1234
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:19,280
someone off here a few weeks ago uh that

1235
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,720
you remember from

1236
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:23,280
hop up in alaska that electromagnetic

1237
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,040
thing they the the government would send

1238
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:27,920
up yeah 55 000 volts of electricity was

1239
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,109
and then someone said that as soon as

1240
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:39,520
they turn that off okay they turned it

1241
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:41,760
off a few years ago you started getting

1242
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:44,079
these mega hurricanes down

1243
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:45,839
you know everywhere you know all of a

1244
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:47,200
sudden they said for some reason they

1245
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,800
seemed to think that that was turned on

1246
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,560
but there was turned off started closing

1247
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:52,079
and supposedly

1248
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,280
you know nick redfern was one of the

1249
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,960
people who wrote about this they were

1250
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,319
testing using

1251
00:46:10,710 --> 00:45:58,480
climate as a weapon yeah okay and if you

1252
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,790
and the mainstream media will never even

1253
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:15,359
try to mention this is

1254
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,319
when it

1255
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,720
turns south of miami

1256
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:20,880
my father was helping his brother who

1257
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:22,079
had a stroke or something he was in

1258
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:26,000
north miami yes and the the neighborhood

1259
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:27,359
that i recall

1260
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,359
visiting as a you know kid and teenager

1261
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:31,599
and all that was they had 30 feet round

1262
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:33,359
trees everywhere

1263
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,319
they were all gone right that was 135

1264
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,400
mile an hour winds in north miami right

1265
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,960
when it hit dade city florida

1266
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:42,400
there was 412

1267
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:44,000
000 people

1268
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:47,040
um that lived in that area right at

1269
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:49,599
every single apartment complex every

1270
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:51,440
single mobile home

1271
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:52,400
uh

1272
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,920
you know modulated home whatever you

1273
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:55,200
want to call them right

1274
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,720
they were gone right this is the

1275
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:58,319
hurricane andrew right we're talking

1276
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:59,280
about it

1277
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:00,720
and let me tell you something that never

1278
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:02,079
hit the airway

1279
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:04,880
they claimed 12 000 people died

1280
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,119
the military was flown in

1281
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:09,760
um for something like 10 to 12 days

1282
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:11,040
before

1283
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:12,560
they allowed anybody down there

1284
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,000
including me i was going to go down and

1285
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,319
help my dad out right they

1286
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:17,920
there was it was a blackout twelve

1287
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,000
thousand sounds a little bit body parts

1288
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:22,480
and pieces for days but twelve thousand

1289
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:23,920
people i don't think twelve thousand

1290
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:26,000
people died there was a hundred for

1291
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:28,240
four hundred twelve thousand people

1292
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:32,319
uh on on statistics they disappeared wow

1293
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:33,760
no i'm talking about you're looking at

1294
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:35,040
almost half a million people they

1295
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,480
disappear yeah wow they're fun thanks

1296
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,240
uh did this another reason that's one of

1297
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:42,960
them went from 150 mile an hour winds to

1298
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:46,400
over 350 crates

1299
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:48,560
and they never ever broadcast that

1300
00:47:52,550 --> 00:47:50,480
information right they never even warned

1301
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,560
anybody about it right right because the

1302
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:54,800
military it was a test area right in

1303
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,359
fact they knocked out turkey point which

1304
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:59,119
the point is gone right i remember that

1305
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,319
what was the other brother there was an

1306
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:02,720
air base down there that went out of um

1307
00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:03,760
what was called

1308
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,319
homestead it was huge and they after

1309
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,839
that hurricane that was it i mean they

1310
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,599
still fly tankers or something down

1311
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,520
there hey ben davis thank you for

1312
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,200
joining us tell us tell people where

1313
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,800
they can get your books

1314
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:17,280
um i created a new bookstore it's called

1315
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:20,079
benddavisjuniorbookstore.com

1316
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,240
ben davis junior bookstore

1317
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:23,760
if you want more information that you

1318
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:25,839
never hear anywhere you can go to

1319
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:31,270
target at individualforce.com you're not

1320
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:34,319
in relation to jefferson davis are you i

1321
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:35,920
don't think so you never know though you

1322
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:36,720
know

1323
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:39,760
yeah they took a a confederate uh

1324
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:41,920
memorial down the day and they found a

1325
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:44,480
time capsule in it today yeah in orlando

1326
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:46,400
they found a what a time capsule

1327
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:48,720
really what did say we won they haven't

1328
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,800
opened it yet okay

1329
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:52,640
hey thanks for joining us up there you

1330
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:55,040
heard it from me

1331
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:56,720
thanks a lot for joining us uh come back

1332
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:59,119
real soon good luck with the book okay

1333
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,720
just send me an email anytime you want

1334
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,720
okay thanks thanks davis good night ben

1335
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,559
don daytona beach baby one of the

1336
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,319
coolest places in the world why don't we

1337
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,720
take a commercial break now and uh we'll

1338
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,240
be right back you're listening to matt

1339
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:12,000
money's military exile show here on the

1340
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:14,000
distance on the radio network

1341
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:15,839
right back after this after the events

1342
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:18,400
of 9 11 we thought america would never

1343
00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:21,359
be the same our homeland was attacked

1344
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:23,119
our fellow americans killed by

1345
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:25,760
terrorists it seemed like all hope was

1346
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,119
lost

1347
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:29,599
until a special group of patriots came

1348
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:32,240
together and defied the pentagon and

1349
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:35,040
vowed to take revenge but in their own

1350
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:36,079
way

1351
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,760
they took the battle to the terrorist

1352
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:39,599
doorstep turning the tables on the

1353
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,480
murderers fighting with no rules taking

1354
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:44,480
no prisoners until they became

1355
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:47,280
terrorists themselves this is the story

1356
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:50,079
of the super hawks soldiers so secret

1357
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,520
even the president didn't know they

1358
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:52,800
existed

1359
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,960
their mission was to kill bin laden but

1360
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:57,119
they wound up saving the world

1361
00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:59,760
super hawks a new series for kindles and

1362
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,000
nooks by mac maloney available on

1363
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:04,880
amazon.com

1364
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,069
i'm liam neeson you're listening to the

1365
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:24,640
mac maloney military x-file show on

1366
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:26,880
distant thunder radio network if you

1367
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:28,960
don't listen to him i have a particular

1368
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:32,240
set of skills and i will find you

1369
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,599
welcome back everyone tackle on the

1370
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,440
military exile show here on the disney

1371
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:37,680
thunder radio network it's matt moaning

1372
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:38,960
in the studio with us tonight very

1373
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:41,200
famous one-on-one is here hello mark

1374
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:42,720
also in the disclosed location the

1375
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,359
studio behind us commander cobra's here

1376
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:47,200
fluttering on the wing as always

1377
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:48,559
you know we haven't is he walking on the

1378
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:50,960
wing now we're fluttering i don't know

1379
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,800
um we haven't saluted them yet so why

1380
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:54,800
don't we get that over with okay that's

1381
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:01,750
obviously one one's been practicing in

1382
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:03,920
the mirror

1383
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:06,240
all right

1384
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:08,319
you know what when i'm near peace at

1385
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:10,160
five o'clock they do the

1386
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:12,160
explain the peace is it if peace air

1387
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:13,280
force base

1388
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,960
and i'm i'm across the highway at

1389
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:16,559
walmart and with something and only the

1390
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:18,720
cool kids apparently call it the p's

1391
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:21,040
whatever the hell that means go ahead

1392
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,400
and at five o'clock

1393
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:23,920
they play

1394
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:26,400
with the trumpets what's taps

1395
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,760
yeah it's taps

1396
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:29,440
five in the morning no five in the

1397
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:31,359
afternoon okay yeah all right yep it's

1398
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,960
taps and then the national anthem yes

1399
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:34,880
okay now what you're supposed to do is

1400
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:37,040
you're supposed to stand at attention

1401
00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:39,200
and salute in place no matter where you

1402
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:41,040
are you can be walking

1403
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:42,559
and stop and

1404
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:45,200
do it yes i mean this so the luffy

1405
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:46,960
invisible flag that might be are you

1406
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:49,680
saying you do this in

1407
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:51,599
the walmart of the giant voice which

1408
00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:53,440
back brought up a couple weeks ago it

1409
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:55,839
seems to echo everywhere big voice or

1410
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,440
you if you know where the flag is you

1411
00:52:01,910 --> 00:51:59,440
face the flag and you see the flag your

1412
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:01,920
face like right so you're in

1413
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:06,309
no i'm the only one that does it oh boy

1414
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:08,079
you know security

1415
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:10,079
i'm the only one that does it maybe

1416
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:11,359
maybe you're just hearing the taps in

1417
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:12,559
your head too

1418
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:14,319
no maybe it's just you

1419
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:22,390
this is a different tune okay

1420
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,640
in the morning everything happens

1421
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:26,640
and then taps at night okay that's what

1422
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,240
it is at five o'clock it's retreat

1423
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:30,559
retreat yes right something i feel like

1424
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,480
doing right now anyway okay it's just

1425
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:34,319
wicked cool because you hear it echoing

1426
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:36,319
around and it's you hear it echoing

1427
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,280
around

1428
00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:39,359
you maybe it's just me

1429
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:41,040
hey look my watch it's five o'clock on

1430
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:43,040
the nose there you go did you

1431
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,040
did you miss 12 hours somewhere along

1432
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:47,680
the line now this is a real check it out

1433
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,640
sometimes

1434
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:50,480
go go there in that area at five o'clock

1435
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:52,000
i could just see that scenario and

1436
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,760
waking up after 12 hours you know and

1437
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:55,040
the black guy goes what am i doing all

1438
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:58,400
these white guys what happened

1439
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:00,400
we'll put some laughter in there right

1440
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:02,319
back out

1441
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:04,480
down there in dallas the murder capital

1442
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:07,119
of the planet graveyard love

1443
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:08,480
residents

1444
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:10,880
yes hello how are you

1445
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:12,800
yes someone chose to burp over my line

1446
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,720
big heat wave down there right

1447
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:17,040
oh yeah yeah huge pretty bad like what

1448
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:20,000
yeah 120 or something no way really is

1449
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,720
it really i thought well in texas no in

1450
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:24,240
arizona

1451
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:25,520
120

1452
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,640
all right it's a dry heat i mean there

1453
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,480
was a heat index in iraq that was like

1454
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:32,640
160. i don't i didn't think that was

1455
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,480
real hey cobra what how hot did it get

1456
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:36,880
over there how hot was that i i saw it

1457
00:53:40,829 --> 00:53:39,680
hit 119 one day when i was there that's

1458
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:40,839
just

1459
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:43,520
yikes but it would feel hotter than that

1460
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:44,960
yes but it's a dry heat so it's like

1461
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:48,559
being in an oven yeah it's fantastic

1462
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,000
what really caught me was at 12 000 feet

1463
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:54,400
one night over baghdad the outside air

1464
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:55,920
temperature at two o'clock in the

1465
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,000
morning was 91 degrees man at night

1466
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:02,319
at night the heat was radiating up that

1467
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:04,240
high that was a block of water it made

1468
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,280
you open your window right in the

1469
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,349
but they also have kind of a winter over

1470
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:11,119
there too it isn't hot all the time or

1471
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:11,920
is it

1472
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:14,000
well the northern part of iraq if you

1473
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,559
think of iraq much like california yeah

1474
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,240
the northern part we actually had snow a

1475
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:20,319
couple of times i iced an airplane up in

1476
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,559
a rack so bad that i almost wasn't able

1477
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,400
to climb out of a out of a snowstorm on

1478
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:26,559
the iraqi iranian border wow that would

1479
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:28,240
have been a good place to crash land you

1480
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:30,400
know yeah really hospital

1481
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:31,680
was really good about it that's what the

1482
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:33,200
kurds were so i would have been taking

1483
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,720
care of them

1484
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,000
yeah and

1485
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,480
eaten very well too yes yeah they say

1486
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,160
that it's excellent eating eating

1487
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,000
they're waiting okay you say eating yeah

1488
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:44,000
eating kurdish food is very good no like

1489
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:46,000
what is pretty good curds and wax

1490
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,599
yes

1491
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:49,520
they have hamburgers spaghetti that's

1492
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,400
that's

1493
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:52,480
just to get that status but cleared up

1494
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:54,960
1-1 that current is spelled with a c the

1495
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:57,359
one we're talking about is the big k

1496
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,720
don't start getting

1497
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,559
away that urgent weight does not come

1498
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,400
from don't judge him

1499
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:04,559
don't get all wikipedia on me oh yeah

1500
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:05,280
right

1501
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:07,119
that's how you find the you know the

1502
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:09,200
meaning of everything

1503
00:55:12,790 --> 00:55:10,960
if you keep it up

1504
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:12,800
so we'll have a big serving of that in

1505
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:14,079
some airpods

1506
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:16,160
that was air not here i was recalling a

1507
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:19,280
road sign i saw it curds this way really

1508
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:21,440
waves is the other way you know okay i

1509
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:22,880
believe that i guess there's a road sign

1510
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,960
i want to get from my room

1511
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,640
not in the uk it says

1512
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:28,160
way out you know

1513
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,359
oh yeah the way out yeah yeah that'd be

1514
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,359
a british way out i love it there's a

1515
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,720
great george have some pictures in front

1516
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:34,319
of us like his

1517
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:35,839
street where he lives and yes in the

1518
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:38,319
back with this enormous brick wall his

1519
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,400
big size is way out way out yeah man he

1520
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,960
was like i love that picture

1521
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:44,640
anyway anyway how do we go in that kick

1522
00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:46,079
yeah i hear there's a heat wave down

1523
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:48,880
there is that true yes yes okay yeah i

1524
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:51,040
i've gone to ground i'm inside oh really

1525
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:52,799
you have vhc

1526
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:55,839
oh yeah ac right okay oh yeah all right

1527
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:56,880
so um

1528
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:58,640
we were talking off air as they say in

1529
00:56:02,309 --> 00:56:00,160
the biz the other day yesterday about

1530
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,319
this private air force i kind of knew

1531
00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:04,160
about it but i wasn't aware how big it

1532
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,559
was how you know extensive it was

1533
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:08,160
but um maybe a lot of people out there

1534
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:10,240
don't realize that there is a

1535
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:11,920
this thing is called it's a private

1536
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:13,680
airport air force

1537
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:15,680
where they have hundreds of planes

1538
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:18,240
dozens of up into the hundreds of planes

1539
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,520
and they're a private company they're

1540
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:21,119
called the draken company is that how

1541
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,400
you pronounce that

1542
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:24,480
drake it international yeah okay it's

1543
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,920
it's a thumbnail are these contractors

1544
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:27,839
or something yes yeah yeah but it's an

1545
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,599
enormous thing give us the thumbnail

1546
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,960
there ron

1547
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:32,960
yeah so um yeah they're a new company

1548
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:35,040
they've been around since i believe 2011

1549
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:39,200
or 2012 and it uh evolved out of a

1550
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:41,520
aerial acrobatics uh

1551
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:44,880
company nice and it's it's former um you

1552
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:47,760
know former air force uh you know pilots

1553
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:49,520
uh you know highly experienced some

1554
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:50,720
people have been through the weapons

1555
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,720
school top gun and uh expanded by buying

1556
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,240
dozens of

1557
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,400
um retiring

1558
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:00,960
uh eric military aircraft from other

1559
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:02,400
countries uh

1560
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:04,160
and building up a private air force to

1561
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,319
be used okay so i should note i mean

1562
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:07,920
it's a private air force but this is

1563
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:09,520
they're not mercenaries in the sense

1564
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:12,480
that you know they're flying

1565
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:15,200
you know uh into war zones for hire now

1566
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,559
there are companies that do that

1567
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,240
draken's not one of those right uh what

1568
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:20,880
they do is is uh principally aggressor

1569
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:23,520
training for the air force like top gun

1570
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:25,599
specifically my top

1571
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:26,640
yeah

1572
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:30,559
and um so you need a uh beyond uh visual

1573
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:34,640
range uh target uh to simulate um you

1574
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:37,200
know an attack uh simulated missile uh

1575
00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:38,640
they will fly

1576
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,599
um you know at this hand-me-down uh

1577
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:43,359
czech and

1578
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:46,000
uh polish and new you know new zealand

1579
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:46,960
uh

1580
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:54,880
i i i'm trying to get an exact number

1581
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:57,599
and i believe it's over 80 and um

1582
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,760
aircraft and they

1583
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:00,960
they get a lot of attention because they

1584
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:02,559
look really cool they they paint them

1585
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:03,760
like yeah they paint them that's the

1586
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:05,119
cool thing they're all painted the same

1587
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:06,240
way and everything you know they're

1588
00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:07,680
really you can tell they're getting into

1589
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:09,440
it um we should just paint it like what

1590
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:11,440
like a circus no no no no just kind of

1591
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:13,040
like a cool you know kind of green

1592
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:14,480
camouflage thing but they all have the

1593
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:16,559
same they tend to they kind of follow

1594
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:18,720
russian camouflage patterns as much as

1595
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:20,799
possible

1596
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:24,480
when you would look out you'd see the

1597
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:27,280
same kind of visual uh appearance that

1598
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:30,240
the uh the stupid primary adversaries

1599
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:31,520
would

1600
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:33,839
listen yeah but but what i was gonna say

1601
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:36,720
is that um just so people don't know if

1602
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:38,240
you hadn't seen popcorn it's coming out

1603
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:40,000
again they're making a new top gun and

1604
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:41,520
tom cruise is in it yeah believe it or

1605
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:43,440
not but basically what it is is top gun

1606
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:44,720
and then there's an air force version of

1607
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:46,960
it is our pilots go out and they train

1608
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,440
against uh aggressive squadrons people

1609
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,520
who fly like russians or chinese they

1610
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:53,040
fly airplanes that is that they're kind

1611
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:55,040
of you know made to fly like those kind

1612
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:56,720
of and they practice against them you're

1613
00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:58,400
they're the red team you're the you know

1614
00:59:00,950 --> 00:59:00,000
the blue team usually and that's what

1615
00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:00,960
we're talking about they do it on the

1616
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,559
ground they do it you know they do it

1617
00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:04,559
with troops and so on but these guys

1618
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:07,520
what they do is they provide the bad

1619
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,160
guys you know they like like the um the

1620
00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:12,640
team the glo holland globetrotters

1621
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:14,240
the american generals you know like the

1622
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,760
washington generals right the washington

1623
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:17,119
generals that said you know they're not

1624
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:18,720
meant to win but right but now they're

1625
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:20,960
down in florida someplace rob right yeah

1626
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:22,000
they're based in they're based near

1627
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:25,440
tampa um at a regional airport um in

1628
00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:28,720
lakeland i believe is the town uh the

1629
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:29,839
um

1630
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:31,599
i i should note there's let's talk about

1631
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:32,880
some of the airplanes they have which is

1632
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:34,960
interesting but um you know this is also

1633
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:36,799
coming out because the the air force has

1634
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:39,040
been uh cutting its aggressor squadrons

1635
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:41,680
right i believe they still have two i if

1636
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:44,079
i'm if i'm right about that left

1637
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:46,480
which is a decline and um

1638
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:47,839
uh

1639
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:49,760
you know i i you know the air force has

1640
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:52,160
been getting more expensive to operate

1641
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:54,079
and now that you're also seeing f-35

1642
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:55,040
starting to

1643
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:56,480
to roll off from you know these are

1644
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:58,400
expensive these have you know defl or

1645
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:00,319
f-22s right which have been around for

1646
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:03,839
years now are expensive to fly and um

1647
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:06,079
you don't need a

1648
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:07,920
you know a really expensive stealth

1649
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:09,920
fighter if you're going to be to be you

1650
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,839
know practicing basic intercept

1651
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,520
maneuvers and

1652
01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:15,119
or if you just need a target to aim at

1653
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:15,839
and

1654
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:18,240
um so draken has

1655
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:20,240
has come in and said okay we can provide

1656
01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:22,559
this and we can do it for you know more

1657
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:24,640
right better price um

1658
01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:25,440
and

1659
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:30,319
this is important uh

1660
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:34,160
there are um a4 they bought most of

1661
01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:37,200
most of the a4 skyhawks uh

1662
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,799
that new zealand had pretty much their

1663
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:40,079
whole air force

1664
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:41,440
again this is an air force is larger

1665
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:43,839
than a lot of your actual airflow in the

1666
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:45,200
world that's the one airplane i want to

1667
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:46,799
talk about because people

1668
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:48,799
you know who again might not know an a4

1669
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:51,200
skyhawk okay keep your eyes closed okay

1670
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:53,359
i want to show you my first ever

1671
01:01:00,230 --> 01:00:55,680
painting all right okay

1672
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:00,240
open your eyes oh that's a lot of colors

1673
01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:02,720
and shades so be honest what do you

1674
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:05,599
think well uh i like how

1675
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:07,040
if you switch to geico you could save

1676
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:08,799
hundreds of dollars on car insurance oh

1677
01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:11,839
yeah that's that's true yeah here why

1678
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,079
don't i hold your paintbrush while you

1679
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:16,799
call them geico because saving 15 or

1680
01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:18,880
more on car insurance is always a great

1681
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:21,040
answer something was used in vietnam war

1682
01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:23,200
okay but it's one of the best planes

1683
01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:25,520
ever built carbon do you agree with me

1684
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:27,200
absolutely it's like one of these top

1685
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,280
three yeah easily you know it's it's a

1686
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:31,119
jet it's a small jet but it's like this

1687
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:33,040
um it's more of an attack craft or

1688
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:34,480
whatever you know that's right it was

1689
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:35,839
actually designed

1690
01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:38,319
to carry a small tactical nuclear device

1691
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:39,760
off the aircraft carrier at the height

1692
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:41,680
of the cold war right okay yeah that was

1693
01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:43,839
his primary mission small but but the

1694
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:45,760
the guy who it's a whole you know other

1695
01:01:49,030 --> 01:01:47,520
thing but the guy who invented it wasn't

1696
01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:49,040
his name heineman or something that's

1697
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:51,680
right hot rod is the nickname of or the

1698
01:01:55,030 --> 01:01:53,440
scooter and they loved it they loved

1699
01:01:56,789 --> 01:01:55,040
this airplane you know john mccain used

1700
01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:56,799
to fly one of them they loved it and and

1701
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:58,000
you know they're getting old now the

1702
01:02:01,910 --> 01:02:00,000
fact is this draken has bought up the

1703
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:01,920
whole global supply just about the

1704
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:03,920
biggest craze yeah

1705
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:05,760
yeah not a lot of users left of them i

1706
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:08,160
think um argentina still has some but

1707
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:09,359
they're none of them are airborne

1708
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:10,960
anymore they've all uh they have been

1709
01:02:13,829 --> 01:02:12,559
able to maintain them so i believe

1710
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:13,839
there's none

1711
01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:15,280
made a modification to make a twin

1712
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:17,359
engine out of theirs and that's probably

1713
01:02:21,030 --> 01:02:18,799
the last one that's still flying wow

1714
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:21,040
that's wild and dragons yeah and then um

1715
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:22,640
also what's great about the draken ones

1716
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:25,200
is that the um the kiwis in new zealand

1717
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:26,640
they upgraded

1718
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:29,440
their a4 skyhawks with basically the

1719
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:33,359
equivalent of an f-16s avionics suite so

1720
01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:34,400
the radar

1721
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:35,839
is is a little smaller than what you get

1722
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:38,720
on an on an f16 an upgraded one but

1723
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:41,200
uh you know you get a similar

1724
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:43,280
electronic profile right which is good

1725
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:44,640
and then um

1726
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:46,240
some of the other aircraft uh they've

1727
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:48,720
got about 30 mig-21s yes

1728
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:50,240
the company bought from poland which

1729
01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:52,160
would be cool to have 30 and make 21

1730
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,319
cents and i believe if i remember

1731
01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:56,240
correctly on this they can actually air

1732
01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,280
refuel those as well oh nice wow really

1733
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,280
yeah do the russians refuel when they

1734
01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:03,599
air they do right yes they do yes okay

1735
01:03:07,589 --> 01:03:05,680
all right mick 21 is not used a lot in

1736
01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:07,599
vietnam by the nothing means go ahead

1737
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:09,920
yeah the big pencil shaped yeah you know

1738
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:11,440
very uh

1739
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:12,960
you know they're obviously one of the

1740
01:03:15,910 --> 01:03:14,559
most one of my favorite looking

1741
01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:15,920
airplanes yeah they look looking they

1742
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:18,480
look mean they look mean from the get-go

1743
01:03:24,789 --> 01:03:21,990
i was just going to say that that

1744
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:24,799
particular airplane it's a greater than

1745
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:27,920
mach 1 mach 1.5 depending on how it's

1746
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:29,359
configured up

1747
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:31,440
that airplane could be made very easily

1748
01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:33,839
though it's amazing aircraft because the

1749
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:35,599
ones i had seen up close

1750
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,319
they used simple things like flat screws

1751
01:03:43,349 --> 01:03:40,559
and very simple straightforward hard

1752
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,359
technology to make very fast very

1753
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,440
maneuverable fighter yeah

1754
01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:47,680
well that's their way for sure

1755
01:03:51,029 --> 01:03:48,880
yeah um

1756
01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:51,039
also cobra i was wondering um

1757
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:53,520
so they have some uh czech trainers they

1758
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:55,839
have alpha albatross

1759
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:58,319
yeah they got the 159 is as which is the

1760
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:00,960
upgraded version uh i think it's the uh

1761
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:03,280
voto choi of chodi

1762
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:05,520
it's the 139 upgrade is the 159 so

1763
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:07,440
that's pretty uh pretty hot aircraft

1764
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:09,280
that's i think called alca if i remember

1765
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:10,559
correctly

1766
01:04:15,029 --> 01:04:12,559
right that's the most

1767
01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:15,039
most the most modern built right um

1768
01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:17,440
aircraft and then there's um they're

1769
01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:18,720
also pretty nice too yeah the air

1770
01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:20,559
machine is a beautiful airplane yeah

1771
01:04:24,390 --> 01:04:22,720
i've seen those at air shows doing doing

1772
01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:24,400
routines they really are kind of a

1773
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:26,720
graceful airplane they have a very

1774
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:29,440
stable straight wing on them or it's not

1775
01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:31,839
as heavily swept so it gives a lot of

1776
01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:33,599
maneuverability

1777
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:36,720
and the thing that that that draken and

1778
01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:38,480
a number of these firms you know some of

1779
01:04:41,750 --> 01:04:40,160
which i've actually been under the

1780
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:41,760
employee are

1781
01:04:47,109 --> 01:04:44,559
they have tapped into a large number of

1782
01:04:48,630 --> 01:04:47,119
uh veterans that are available to fly

1783
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:48,640
these missions yes

1784
01:04:54,549 --> 01:04:51,920
they are doing it at much lower cost uh

1785
01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:54,559
per hour to provide this kind of

1786
01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:55,680
training

1787
01:05:00,630 --> 01:04:58,240
and they are able to do things like

1788
01:05:01,829 --> 01:05:00,640
train jtx joint terminal air controllers

1789
01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:01,839
those are the folks in the ground that

1790
01:05:06,309 --> 01:05:04,240
call the airstrike they can do what they

1791
01:05:08,309 --> 01:05:06,319
call forward air control airborne from

1792
01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:08,319
these assets and continue to train those

1793
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:10,799
people on the ground or provide it and

1794
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:12,880
then you have the air-to-air work that

1795
01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:14,799
we talked about and then you have the

1796
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:17,280
close air support and then they also

1797
01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:20,880
include the ability to provide transport

1798
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:22,400
services as well

1799
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:24,559
for moving people around for exercises

1800
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:26,640
or setting those parts and pieces um

1801
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:28,559
just two questions this will be

1802
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:30,640
to both of you number one

1803
01:05:35,270 --> 01:05:33,920
do these planes and and as i as you said

1804
01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:35,280
you go on the website and they just the

1805
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:37,280
way they they photograph them is very

1806
01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:38,960
cool and they they want you to get that

1807
01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:40,480
impression that you know

1808
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:42,240
we're like the first private air force

1809
01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:44,160
ever you know i mean they're not

1810
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:46,480
they're into the image of it let's say

1811
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:48,400
are they allowed to carry you know like

1812
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:51,280
real ammunition and stuff

1813
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:53,359
yes they can so they're they're flying

1814
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:56,319
around with with cannons full and bombs

1815
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:57,440
real bombs they're supposed to be

1816
01:06:01,829 --> 01:06:00,240
shooting at you right like uh well like

1817
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:01,839
you're shooting them but

1818
01:06:05,349 --> 01:06:03,440
you're asking the question you asked

1819
01:06:08,230 --> 01:06:05,359
back yes they are allowed to do that but

1820
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:08,240
it's under very specific um

1821
01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:11,280
uh rules that you do that so they're not

1822
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:14,079
flying across country with those weapons

1823
01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:16,240
okay they're at a base or they're at a

1824
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:17,520
location

1825
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:19,680
and this is after the the draken and a

1826
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:20,960
number of these other companies that are

1827
01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:22,079
out there and there's there's there's

1828
01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:24,799
probably three four prime ones draken by

1829
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:26,880
far has now morphed into probably one of

1830
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:28,240
the largest

1831
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:30,720
and it and it goes to your comment about

1832
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:32,400
image that we'll talk about that in one

1833
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:34,880
second but you would fly to a base but

1834
01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:37,280
the planes have to be inspected and they

1835
01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:38,960
have to pass a clearance from the air

1836
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:42,000
force in dod that says they're airworthy

1837
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:43,760
that they meet a certain standard you

1838
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:45,280
have to meet a certain faa standard for

1839
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:46,480
a lot of these birds that come from

1840
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:47,839
overseas that means certain kinds of

1841
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:49,440
radio upgrades certain kinds of things

1842
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:51,039
that go on with that and then you have

1843
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:53,359
to have a procedural policy that says

1844
01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:56,160
how you do this so when you arm them up

1845
01:07:01,349 --> 01:06:58,480
normally they don't carry heavy bombs

1846
01:07:03,270 --> 01:07:01,359
they're carrying small uh marking bombs

1847
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:03,280
uh what we call blue 32s that when they

1848
01:07:06,069 --> 01:07:04,960
hit they put a large smoke cloud up and

1849
01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:06,079
that way the people on the ground can

1850
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:07,760
see how close it was to the target you

1851
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:09,839
hit but it's to give

1852
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:11,520
uh the folks on the ground that are

1853
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:14,160
receiving the training the real world

1854
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,680
descending on a ridgeline and they're

1855
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:17,440
watching these weapons impact or where

1856
01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:20,400
the guns now the the rounds going out

1857
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:22,160
generally are inert uh rounds they're

1858
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:23,440
not going to use explosive rounds but

1859
01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:25,680
you can have uh tracers on this that you

1860
01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:26,960
can help you when the aircraft see what

1861
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:28,160
you're hitting and help them on the

1862
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:29,200
ground see what you're hitting right

1863
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:30,480
they do it from a distance and all those

1864
01:07:35,589 --> 01:07:33,119
safety things right so it's it's it's

1865
01:07:37,349 --> 01:07:35,599
it's a good system because you're using

1866
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:37,359
skill sets that taxpayers have already

1867
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:41,280
paid for right on that image part of it

1868
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:43,359
unfortunately in my opinion way too much

1869
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:46,400
gets hung up on image and people want to

1870
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:47,920
see the shiny jets they want to see

1871
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:49,440
those really pretty pictures they want

1872
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:51,680
to have that pizzazz factor of it but

1873
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:53,200
there is a certain amount of theater

1874
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:54,640
that goes on with this because you're

1875
01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:57,520
trying to give people on the ground uh

1876
01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:59,280
people in the air

1877
01:08:02,630 --> 01:08:00,400
good

1878
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:02,640
directed training and a very finite

1879
01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:04,400
package so when they walk away the

1880
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:06,079
customer the united states government

1881
01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:07,520
got what they pay for and when you take

1882
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:08,960
an incident like what just occurred over

1883
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:11,200
syria a couple days ago where you have a

1884
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:12,720
hornet show up

1885
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:15,039
and it meets the su-22 that just dropped

1886
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:18,080
bombs you want that those those guys and

1887
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:21,440
gals to knock them down and not get a

1888
01:08:26,470 --> 01:08:24,239
scratch on them there you go so then

1889
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:26,480
i'll go ahead one more one please no

1890
01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:28,960
no oh i thought you would

1891
01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:30,319
i thought you had a question no i don't

1892
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:31,759
know

1893
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:33,839
i'm processing what happened over syria

1894
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:34,960
we're going to do about that i don't

1895
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:38,159
even know that oh now we have to get it

1896
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:41,679
i'm glad i threw it to you anyway so so

1897
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:43,679
it's safe to say that you know on on the

1898
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:44,640
um

1899
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:46,000
you know on a moment's notice these

1900
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:47,679
people could be you know shooting real

1901
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:51,040
guns and dropping real bombs right

1902
01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:52,480
well i'm not sure what you're trying to

1903
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:54,719
drive at i'm driving at the proposal for

1904
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:56,960
wingman19 what do you think i'm driving

1905
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:58,239
well there are other examples you could

1906
01:09:01,749 --> 01:08:59,679
point to i mean there are other private

1907
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:01,759
air forces that are doing that but now

1908
01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:03,600
you know in you know various third world

1909
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:05,759
conflicts that were set up much more

1910
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:07,359
you know quietly

1911
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:09,120
um and not with a lot of you know

1912
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:10,799
marketing now let's just say that their

1913
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,480
jets don't look quite as sexy as yeah

1914
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:14,239
these are the second jets now but the

1915
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:17,199
thing is utilitarian it's like um

1916
01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:19,759
there's only so many of these um

1917
01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:21,440
aggressive planes that you you're gonna

1918
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:23,359
need right it's not really a growing

1919
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:25,040
business is it

1920
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:27,520
i actually think it is growing rob

1921
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:30,239
um i don't know um you know i i haven't

1922
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:32,480
looked into that aspect of it um i mean

1923
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:33,920
it's a steady business for sure i mean

1924
01:09:37,749 --> 01:09:35,520
there's there's definitely going to be

1925
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:37,759
continued demand for

1926
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:39,359
uh with the united states government

1927
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:41,600
allowed them to go overseas and you know

1928
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,080
be aggressive squadrons for the raf and

1929
01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:45,839
stuff like that oh they they already do

1930
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,520
work all around the world they do this

1931
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:49,440
they do these kinds of missions all over

1932
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,960
the globe yeah i think it's really

1933
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,880
interesting and i think this is just the

1934
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:54,080
beginning of something like this you

1935
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:56,159
know but they're not deployed as like uh

1936
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:58,080
coalition forces no no no they're just

1937
01:10:02,229 --> 01:10:00,000
that they're basically training who you

1938
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:02,239
train against you know but but you know

1939
01:10:05,990 --> 01:10:03,920
that's how stuff is that it sounds like

1940
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:06,000
a pretty useful yeah you know mag i i

1941
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:07,360
love the sinister aspect that you're

1942
01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:08,560
trying to bring up here but we've been

1943
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:10,719
doing this since the 70s i remember

1944
01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:13,679
entering two mishibishi mu2s which were

1945
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:15,840
a very fast turboprop airplane flying

1946
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:17,920
between 20 and 30 000 feet the entire

1947
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:19,520
time i was stationed in germany for

1948
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:22,480
f-15s and f-16s to come up and practice

1949
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:24,800
locking up and doing maneuvers on

1950
01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:27,520
all the guys there were all old f-86 and

1951
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:29,920
f-100 drivers from vietnam and there

1952
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:31,280
were contractors they were going up

1953
01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:33,199
there to fight that's all it was it was

1954
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:34,800
all contract and then they brought their

1955
01:10:39,110 --> 01:10:37,040
jets in and they were flying learjets as

1956
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:39,120
the target and they would fly and do a

1957
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:40,400
series of sets of maneuvers and these

1958
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:42,000
guys could practice doing their their

1959
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:43,440
radar intercepts and their missile

1960
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:45,600
walk-ons to it and they come down and do

1961
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,239
it what's gotten interesting is now

1962
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:50,880
they're using old military aircraft and

1963
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:52,960
those older military aircraft are their

1964
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,040
wires are being hooked up again to

1965
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,880
actually have the ability to drop

1966
01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:58,480
ordnance and do stuff right see that's

1967
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:59,920
why i think so that's like saving an old

1968
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:01,840
hot rod you know what i mean and giving

1969
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:03,600
it something to do in a way you know

1970
01:11:06,149 --> 01:11:04,640
well

1971
01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:06,159
since i got rob on the line and you on

1972
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:07,600
the line i found out something very

1973
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:10,480
interesting this past week that the f-16

1974
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:12,400
squadron at nellis the aggressor

1975
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:13,920
squadron yes they they used to have an

1976
01:11:18,790 --> 01:11:16,000
f-15 one they've disbanded that one it's

1977
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,800
gone away so the f-16 one is doing most

1978
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,640
of the yeoman work for

1979
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:22,640
uh the aggressive work and nellis for

1980
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,560
the fighter weapons school all that they

1981
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:26,560
have a secondary mission and their

1982
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:28,880
secondary mission is to provide air

1983
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:31,120
defense for the southwest sector of the

1984
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:33,520
united states so you can conceivably

1985
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:34,320
have

1986
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:37,040
an american f-16 dressed up in in

1987
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:38,400
russian colors

1988
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:40,080
show up on the wing of an amer on an

1989
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:41,840
airliner in american air space to find

1990
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:43,440
out why they're doing a violation can

1991
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:44,400
you imagine

1992
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:46,800
chapter two

1993
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:48,400
well i could imagine that if things

1994
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:50,800
really went south you know and a wingman

1995
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:02,390
and you know you would have uh

1996
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:04,480
you know i could imagine a situation

1997
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:07,040
where things really go to you know

1998
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:08,400
everything you have to throw everything

1999
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:10,719
at the enemy that you would see these

2000
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:12,000
private air forces and they say okay

2001
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:13,040
well that's

2002
01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:14,800
let's actually use these and yeah um you

2003
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:17,520
know even even and i'm thinking you know

2004
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:19,040
think of the private space companies as

2005
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:22,480
well right right that uh the um elon

2006
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:24,000
musk and so forth who are you know said

2007
01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:25,440
hey let's say we need to get a payload

2008
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:28,239
into orbit to uh you know you know they

2009
01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:30,239
see a weapon or something like that then

2010
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:32,000
you can start seeing uh almost a kind of

2011
01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:32,800
uh

2012
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:34,640
what is the what is the term not not

2013
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:37,199
piracy but privateering

2014
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:39,760
yes right yeah it's based the mark yeah

2015
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:41,040
it's the market

2016
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,719
you receive a mark

2017
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,400
and it's called a private tier it was

2018
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:46,480
very popular all the way up to about the

2019
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,480
late 1800s

2020
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:50,400
yeah that's where you were a pirate but

2021
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,480
you were under the um employee of the

2022
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,880
government right you're private too yeah

2023
01:12:58,149 --> 01:12:56,239
so you could go and what it allows you

2024
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:58,159
to do is is that when you made your this

2025
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:01,280
was mainly done in uh naval circles

2026
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:04,080
you your money was you got to take some

2027
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:05,440
of the

2028
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:07,280
uh the booty of

2029
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:09,600
booty

2030
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:11,040
how to say it

2031
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:13,280
uh of your price so you got a percentage

2032
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:15,120
of that as you stop the quote-unquote

2033
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:17,600
enemy so yes okay all right

2034
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:19,920
yeah you were right like england would

2035
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:22,400
hire you to go and be in in pirate

2036
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,880
french you know i like that also yeah i

2037
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:26,640
like that i think that's the way to go

2038
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:28,640
yeah well you know if you need to uh you

2039
01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:30,880
know shoot a missile into orbit or uh

2040
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:32,239
yes you know there have been some novels

2041
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:33,840
i think that explored the idea that you

2042
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:35,920
know you have these super empowered you

2043
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:37,520
know companies that are taking over

2044
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:38,400
space

2045
01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:42,400
that you know in a it what would happen

2046
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:44,960
if we if world war three broke out you

2047
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:47,040
know we haven't you know what you know

2048
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:48,640
what does our industrial base look like

2049
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:51,520
compared to during the 1940s so very

2050
01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:53,440
different you know what what is the role

2051
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:56,239
of walmart in logistics wow you know oh

2052
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,320
my god construction and moving things

2053
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:00,400
from from a to b during world war ii i

2054
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:02,560
mean it was a total war it was the

2055
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,560
nation's entire uh

2056
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:06,320
you know the industrial base of the

2057
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:08,400
country transformed into war making it's

2058
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:09,760
amazon that's going to be doing it

2059
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:11,920
amazon be amazon yeah and it would be

2060
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:13,360
these private space companies and it

2061
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:14,880
would be walmart that would be assisting

2062
01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:16,719
the war effort which is a weird thing

2063
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:19,520
and but also these companies are

2064
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:22,159
very powerful and what would you know

2065
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:23,520
what would the shareholders when they

2066
01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:24,880
have their meeting it's like do we have

2067
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:26,800
to vote on whether we support

2068
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:28,000
you know world war you know the the

2069
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:29,520
government of course now they have

2070
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:31,199
lawyers and they're complaining about it

2071
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:32,800
no haven't we bring it you bring an

2072
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,480
interesting point up but you know you

2073
01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:36,480
had ford making vehicles on both sides

2074
01:14:40,149 --> 01:14:38,320
of the uh of world war ii they were

2075
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:40,159
making opals you know in vehicles for

2076
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:42,320
the germans while they were making what

2077
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:44,000
are you picking on forward for i'm not

2078
01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:45,679
picking on them gm did the same thing

2079
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:47,679
they had world holdings as well

2080
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:49,520
it's an indictment of our entire

2081
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:51,360
automobile

2082
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:53,679
no it was an indictment of this is a

2083
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,520
kabuki show and we're all little bit

2084
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:57,600
players in it and there are

2085
01:15:01,830 --> 01:14:59,840
there are forces that transcend

2086
01:15:04,870 --> 01:15:01,840
governments that are on both sides

2087
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:04,880
many talks the mill where i worked in

2088
01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:06,080
maynard

2089
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:08,719
made woolen blankets for the confederate

2090
01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:16,709
no kabuki is a type of theater in japan

2091
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:18,800
okay and what you not pay attention to

2092
01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:19,760
is the

2093
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:21,199
the people that are on stage that are

2094
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:22,880
dressed all in black that are moving the

2095
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:24,880
sets around while they at main actors

2096
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:26,239
you're not supposed to pay attention

2097
01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:27,199
that you're supposed to make believe you

2098
01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:28,880
don't see it i like that oh yeah i like

2099
01:15:32,870 --> 01:15:31,120
that too they do that in portsmouth

2100
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:32,880
okay where in the bars

2101
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,560
it's such a small venue that oh i see

2102
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:36,080
okay that guy's a black mom and stuff

2103
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:37,920
they've been moving stuff you can change

2104
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:39,360
the sets while everything is still

2105
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:41,760
emotional wow that's pretty cool rob

2106
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:43,440
thanks for joining us tonight go back to

2107
01:15:47,590 --> 01:15:44,960
watching love line there rob they must

2108
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:47,600
be in repeats these days right

2109
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:49,679
actually actually i i don't know why i

2110
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:50,880
brought that up but i haven't listened i

2111
01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:56,310
yeah you definitely brought it up with

2112
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:58,000
the right people that will never forget

2113
01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:59,520
it ever ever

2114
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:02,080
ever thank you rob for joining us and uh

2115
01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:04,000
we will see you next week rob beckhaus

2116
01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:05,840
of warriors brewing the best military

2117
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:07,520
writing absolutely on the net when are

2118
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:08,960
they going to do a story about us

2119
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,840
remember they're going to do a story

2120
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:11,040
about us

2121
01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:14,239
right

2122
01:16:18,830 --> 01:16:16,159
rob rob you're still there are you

2123
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:18,840
inside yeah

2124
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:20,480
um in shock

2125
01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:22,400
you're putting me on the spot um

2126
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:24,080
max very good at that that's something

2127
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,760
you can put in the story not true back

2128
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:27,520
the leader of this pack puts people on

2129
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:28,960
the spot one the sober one the

2130
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:31,040
foundation i rob will talk to you next

2131
01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:32,080
week pal

2132
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:34,000
okay hey thanks rob thank you so you're

2133
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:35,920
no longer on the spot

2134
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:37,600
let's take a commercial break now a

2135
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:39,760
commercial spot how's that first yeah

2136
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:42,159
commercial spot nice transition

2137
01:16:47,830 --> 01:16:46,239
and uh we will talk to um i think

2138
01:16:49,189 --> 01:16:47,840
steve marino up there in battle creek

2139
01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:49,199
we'll see thanks you're listening to

2140
01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:50,800
mack maloney's military exile show here

2141
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:52,400
on the distant thunder radio network

2142
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:54,719
we'll be right back after

2143
01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:55,840
this

2144
01:17:01,750 --> 01:16:58,560
ufos are found in renaissance art on

2145
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:01,760
ancient coins and etched on cave walls

2146
01:17:06,310 --> 01:17:04,080
they're even reported in the bible

2147
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:06,320
but more surprising is when ufos are

2148
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:07,600
seen the most

2149
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:10,400
in times of war

2150
01:17:13,990 --> 01:17:12,320
through centuries thousands of ufo

2151
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:14,000
sightings have been made by high-ranking

2152
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:16,480
officials military pilots and ordinary

2153
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,880
soldiers often these fantastic

2154
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:20,880
appearances occur at the height of great

2155
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:22,080
battles

2156
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:24,800
from world war one to d-day to korea

2157
01:17:29,750 --> 01:17:27,120
vietnam and beyond military

2158
01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:29,760
investigators are baffled why do ufo

2159
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:31,520
sightings spike so drastically during

2160
01:17:34,709 --> 01:17:32,640
wartime

2161
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:34,719
could it be mistaken aircraft or is

2162
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:38,480
someone or something looking in on us

2163
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:41,040
in ufos in wartime what they didn't want

2164
01:17:44,550 --> 01:17:42,880
you to know mcmaloney chronicles

2165
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:44,560
centuries of these incredible sightings

2166
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:46,560
and tries to solve the puzzle of why so

2167
01:17:50,229 --> 01:17:48,960
many ufos are seen while humanity is at

2168
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:50,239
war

2169
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:52,159
read about the scare ships the ghost

2170
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:54,800
planes and the ghost rockets alien

2171
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:57,679
giants in the jungles of vietnam ufos

2172
01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:00,239
controlling our icbm bases

2173
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:02,000
dog fights with flying saucers during

2174
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:04,080
the gulf war and more

2175
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:07,440
300 pages of unbelievable stories along

2176
01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:09,840
with many starting photographs that's

2177
01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:12,400
ufos and wartime what they didn't want

2178
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:15,040
you to know by mac maloney on sale at

2179
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:34,070
[Music]

2180
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:37,440
truth the truth you can't handle the

2181
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:40,159
truth only command commander cobra can

2182
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:42,880
handle the truth

2183
01:18:45,669 --> 01:18:44,239
welcome back everyone to matt colombia's

2184
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military exhaust show here on the

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01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:47,520
distant thunder radio network this is

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01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,239
macaloni in the studio with tonight in

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01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:51,840
the studio with us tonight easy for you

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01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:52,880
to say

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01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:54,960
very famous juan juan is here hello mack

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01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:56,320
the patriots thing on yeah you got to

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01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:57,440
pay your attention

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01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:58,480
okay

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01:19:02,630 --> 01:19:00,640
last week which was a strange show it

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01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:02,640
was the strangest of shows yeah we had

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01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:04,960
one of a fan from wisconsin walk in on

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01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:06,880
us which was interesting

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01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:09,120
thank you barbara for lightening up our

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01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:11,440
entire week shocking the hell out of us

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01:19:13,510 --> 01:19:12,640
but you didn't have any patriots here

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01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:13,520
ron

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01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:16,400
just a quinky dinky or uh

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01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:18,000
you know i decided to give tom brady a

2203
01:19:21,430 --> 01:19:19,360
break there you go

2204
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:21,440
that's nice you know okay i don't get

2205
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:22,800
any residuals from the guy either but

2206
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:24,159
i'm always wearing this stuff the

2207
01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:26,080
eternal bromance

2208
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,480
uh commander cobra also in the disclosed

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01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:30,800
location one studio behind us separated

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01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:33,440
by bulletproof glass and two lock doors

2211
01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:34,960
cobra how are you doing

2212
01:19:38,470 --> 01:19:37,520
okay good have you been flying lately

2213
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:38,480
cobra

2214
01:19:43,590 --> 01:19:40,000
i have really

2215
01:19:46,709 --> 01:19:45,510
i was flying in aircraft yes go ahead

2216
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:46,719
and give yourself your own little thank

2217
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:48,560
you from rollsdale that's that's really

2218
01:19:51,910 --> 01:19:50,480
classy that's beautiful

2219
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:51,920
uh i just haven't been flying by your

2220
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:54,400
house but i feel like i need to yes yeah

2221
01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:55,440
i don't know what he means by that but

2222
01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:57,600
every once in a while club will fly

2223
01:20:01,590 --> 01:19:59,600
could you drop like a bag of flour or

2224
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:01,600
something on his deck and see if that's

2225
01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:03,280
to prove that you actually didn't fly

2226
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:05,920
flower in quotes yeah no it's him you

2227
01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:08,320
can see him gesturing from the cockpit

2228
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:09,920
really and also i'm close enough that he

2229
01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:11,679
can see me when i go by and he and he

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01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:12,960
circles the house and he lets out the

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01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:15,360
smoke like smoke riders

2232
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,120
the neighbors still haven't figured it

2233
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:19,280
out yeah and mac's up there with a

2234
01:20:22,550 --> 01:20:21,120
make-believe gun and the neighbors get

2235
01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:22,560
really concerned i'm surprised nobody's

2236
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:23,840
calling the police who said it's

2237
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:25,600
make-believe

2238
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:27,280
just looks that way hey listen on the

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01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:29,120
phone with us tonight

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we have a very special guest someone who

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01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:33,280
um

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01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:36,159
was a it has had one of

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01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:38,080
the craziest jobs in my mind i can't

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01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:40,080
imagine having the job that this guy had

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01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:41,280
he was a

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01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:43,520
a detective

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01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:45,520
for los angeles county the city of los

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01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:48,400
angeles for 38 years 37 years his name

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01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:50,800
is paul bishop he's uh

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01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:52,560
his latest book is called why catches

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01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:54,400
and um

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01:20:58,790 --> 01:20:56,480
he's someone who i get to know when

2253
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:58,800
wingman 18 battle for america first came

2254
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:01,199
out on sale everywhere and uh we just

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01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:03,120
had him on the show so paul thanks for

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joining us tonight

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01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:06,400
happy to be here

2258
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:08,960
now um did i get that right you were on

2259
01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:11,360
the lapd for 38 years

2260
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:14,480
lapd for 35 years uh 30 years spent

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01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:17,440
working sex crimes wow wow and

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01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:20,000
as a detective right as a detective okay

2263
01:21:24,310 --> 01:21:21,679
keep your eyes closed okay i want to

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01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:24,320
show you my first ever painting all

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01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:25,760
right okay

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01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:30,320
open your eyes oh that's a lot of colors

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01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:32,800
and shades so be honest what do you

2268
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:35,679
think well uh i like how

2269
01:21:38,870 --> 01:21:37,120
if you switch to geico you could save

2270
01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:38,880
hundreds of dollars on car insurance oh

2271
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:41,920
yeah that's that's true yeah here why

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01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:44,159
don't i hold your paintbrush while you

2273
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:46,880
call them geico because saving 15 or

2274
01:21:51,350 --> 01:21:48,960
more on car insurance is always a great

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01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:51,360
answer now yeah

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01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,560
what um

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01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:54,159
i don't know i don't know what question

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01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:56,400
asked i mean one when you said how do

2279
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:57,840
you survive sometimes how does something

2280
01:22:01,910 --> 01:21:59,679
duration like that without without

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01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:01,920
yourself or nuts kind of going nuts or

2282
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:03,280
maybe who said i didn't yeah i was going

2283
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:05,760
to say maybe

2284
01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:07,440
you know it's a

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01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:10,480
sex crimes in particular is a calling it

2286
01:22:14,550 --> 01:22:12,800
isn't an assignment you don't stand sex

2287
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:14,560
crimes if you get there and you don't

2288
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:16,000
like it

2289
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:19,280
we often argued with homicide detectives

2290
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:20,639
about which one of us had the most

2291
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:23,199
difficult job and we always maintain we

2292
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:24,960
do because their victims couldn't lie to

2293
01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:25,679
them

2294
01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:27,280
oh wow there you go

2295
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,320
excellent

2296
01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:30,320
so okay a little dark humor for from the

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01:22:33,990 --> 01:22:32,080
uh okay

2298
01:22:35,110 --> 01:22:34,000
hang on paul

2299
01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:35,120
there you go

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01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:37,040
so so but

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01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:39,280
i mean is there is there such thing as a

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01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:41,840
typical case in in the sex crime unit or

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01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:43,600
is each one of them just you know

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01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:45,440
strange and awful

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01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:48,159
in its own way you know the each one is

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01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:53,040
individual but in in reality um people

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01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:54,719
in the straight world don't really have

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01:22:59,350 --> 01:22:56,639
a good idea of what goes on i mean most

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of our rapes are not stranger rapes most

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01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:00,639
rapes are

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01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:02,880
an identified suspect somebody who's

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01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:05,440
known to the victim in some way

2313
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:06,880
television would have you believe there

2314
01:23:09,669 --> 01:23:08,639
are serial rapists running around every

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01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:09,679
corner

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01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,639
they do exist but they are not uh the

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01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:14,320
bread and butter cases that we handle on

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01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:16,480
a regular basis

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01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:18,400
what really

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01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:21,280
becomes problematic though is uh

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01:23:26,470 --> 01:23:24,080
the long-term child molest cases because

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01:23:29,110 --> 01:23:26,480
those are much more difficult much uh

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01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:29,120
more time-consuming to investigate

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01:23:32,950 --> 01:23:31,600
uh whereas the world in general looks

2325
01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:32,960
only at

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01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,120
sexual assault being raped it goes far

2327
01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:36,719
further than that we covered everything

2328
01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:38,880
from indecent exposures to sexual

2329
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:41,600
homicide wow and everything in between

2330
01:23:45,830 --> 01:23:43,679
in in you know how many cases like this

2331
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:45,840
would come across your desk in a typical

2332
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:47,760
week is are you working on

2333
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:49,679
one big case or are you working

2334
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:52,000
simultaneously on a number of cases

2335
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:56,560
my unit that i ran for the last 15 years

2336
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,480
before i retired

2337
01:24:02,390 --> 01:24:00,239
we had 30 detectives and we covered

2338
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:02,400
about 25 percent of the city

2339
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:05,280
so each one of those detectives would uh

2340
01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:08,320
be working anywhere from 15 to 20 cases

2341
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:09,600
at one time

2342
01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:11,520
wow really yeah that that's not here

2343
01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:12,960
that's just los angeles you're talking

2344
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,480
about that's incredible that's just los

2345
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:16,719
angeles and that's just my little corner

2346
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:18,960
of los angeles by 25 percent that's

2347
01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:20,080
frightening

2348
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:22,159
it seems like a lot

2349
01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:25,280
you know it it is but it's a lot lower

2350
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:31,669
is there is

2351
01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:33,040
once again it's hard to say is there a

2352
01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:34,800
typical case but when you

2353
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:37,280
when you go and you investigate a a a

2354
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:40,880
case a crime and um well a sex crime i

2355
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:42,800
you know typically how long does it take

2356
01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:45,280
you to actually you know catch the guy

2357
01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:46,480
because as you were saying a lot of

2358
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:48,800
times it's it's a known person

2359
01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:51,040
um can you go in and kind of check it

2360
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:52,639
out within five minutes know kind of

2361
01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:53,920
what happened

2362
01:24:57,910 --> 01:24:55,520
well uh

2363
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:57,920
no you really can't um basically if

2364
01:25:01,189 --> 01:24:59,520
somebody tells you they've been robbed

2365
01:25:02,790 --> 01:25:01,199
that means somebody's taken their stuff

2366
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:02,800
from them by force or fear if they said

2367
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:04,159
they've been burglarized somebody's come

2368
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:05,360
into their house when they're gone and

2369
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:06,800
taking their stuff

2370
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:08,800
when somebody says i've been raped my

2371
01:25:13,030 --> 01:25:11,360
first question is okay tell me about it

2372
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:13,040
because i now have to make some

2373
01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:14,239
subjective

2374
01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:18,239
uh evaluations about the situation that

2375
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:22,159
is being reported to me and very often

2376
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:24,639
in fact 90 or more of the time when a

2377
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:27,040
report comes to my desk of a sexual

2378
01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:28,320
assault

2379
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:30,320
the story is going to change between

2380
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:32,800
when the report is made and when i'm

2381
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:34,400
i or my detectives are finished

2382
01:25:37,350 --> 01:25:35,920
interviewing the victim a second time

2383
01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:37,360
right

2384
01:25:41,669 --> 01:25:38,960
can you imagine if you guys have so many

2385
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:41,679
emotions tied to this type of case

2386
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:43,360
and that's what makes it very difficult

2387
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:44,719
you can imagine if guys like this

2388
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:46,800
weren't out here out there stopping this

2389
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:48,400
stuff you know they'd be like madness

2390
01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:50,400
like it'll be crazy right it'll be out

2391
01:25:53,830 --> 01:25:52,560
of control uncivilized um are you

2392
01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:53,840
suggesting that some of the first

2393
01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:56,639
reports are not uh entirely valid or is

2394
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:57,760
because of the

2395
01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:00,320
the hysteria of the the victim that the

2396
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:03,199
story is kind of uh

2397
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:06,719
victims victims uh sometimes uh

2398
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:08,800
uh are embarrassed by what's happened

2399
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,040
they don't report it entirely they don't

2400
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:12,880
report what they believe to be their

2401
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:14,960
culpability in the case because they

2402
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:16,560
want to show themselves as victims

2403
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:18,480
because they believe they are and in

2404
01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:20,880
many many cases they are i just need to

2405
01:26:25,270 --> 01:26:22,639
know all of it so that i'm prepared when

2406
01:26:27,669 --> 01:26:25,280
we go to court and not to be blindsided

2407
01:26:29,189 --> 01:26:27,679
by a defense attorney who's got more

2408
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:29,199
information than i do exactly from the

2409
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:30,719
suspect right

2410
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:33,280
so you know what what we really did was

2411
01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:35,360
so many of our cases where he said she

2412
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:38,400
said situations so you know there's no

2413
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:39,360
actual

2414
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:42,080
uh physical evidence to prove one way or

2415
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:42,960
the other

2416
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:45,920
and so we realized that the

2417
01:26:50,149 --> 01:26:47,760
most important thing

2418
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:50,159
in our investigative tool belt was our

2419
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:52,400
abilities to interrogate

2420
01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:55,600
so we really began to uh

2421
01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:57,360
look at each and every interrogation

2422
01:27:01,189 --> 01:26:59,280
that we did on fridays we'd have what i

2423
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:01,199
called a campfire and everybody would

2424
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:03,199
get together in the in the office and we

2425
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:05,520
would read our cases that were assigned

2426
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:07,440
during the week because inevitably one

2427
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:10,000
case were read by one detective another

2428
01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:11,520
detective would have another part of it

2429
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:13,520
and be able to put things together

2430
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:14,800
but then we would go through and we

2431
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,639
would look at

2432
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:18,480
every video of every interrogation that

2433
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:19,840
we've done during the course of the week

2434
01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:22,000
and critique it harshly this work that

2435
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:23,600
didn't work this worked that didn't work

2436
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:27,760
let's try this next time um and so when

2437
01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:29,920
the result of this was that at the end

2438
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:31,679
of the year when statistics are turned

2439
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:32,960
in

2440
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:34,960
my unit had a 90

2441
01:27:40,229 --> 01:27:37,120
crime clearance rate well nice the

2442
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:40,239
closest unit to us had a 64 percent

2443
01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:42,000
crime clearance rate

2444
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:42,880
so

2445
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:44,800
we worked for a bureaucracy and what

2446
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:46,800
does a bureaucracy do do they come and

2447
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:49,280
say wow you guys are doing a great job

2448
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:50,639
what is it that you're doing that's

2449
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:52,960
different no they come to us and say you

2450
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:55,360
must be lying we're going to audit you

2451
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:57,040
all right excellent yeah

2452
01:28:00,870 --> 01:27:59,040
right you know i'm sure the military

2453
01:28:03,510 --> 01:28:00,880
works the same way that's the worst it's

2454
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:03,520
too good to be true so they audited us

2455
01:28:07,990 --> 01:28:05,280
and and they were right we had lied we

2456
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:08,000
had a 90.4 percent

2457
01:28:12,550 --> 01:28:11,040
um and and they still didn't ask what's

2458
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:12,560
the difference but we knew what the

2459
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:14,400
difference was and it was

2460
01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:17,040
interrogation and what we had found is

2461
01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:18,639
that um

2462
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:20,159
you know you go to the police academy

2463
01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:21,760
they teach people how to drive fast

2464
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:23,280
shoot straight and just enough of the

2465
01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:24,880
local penal code to get themselves in

2466
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:26,159
trouble

2467
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:28,080
i've been all over this country teaching

2468
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:29,920
interrogation to cops and i have never

2469
01:28:34,709 --> 01:28:32,480
come across a police academy that has a

2470
01:28:38,709 --> 01:28:34,719
class in communication wow interesting

2471
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:38,719
and what is 99 of our job it's

2472
01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:40,880
communicating i would think so right

2473
01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:42,400
we look at what's going on there's a

2474
01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:44,000
real crisis in law enforcement at the

2475
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,159
moment and it's a communication crisis

2476
01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:48,480
is is a big part of what's happening

2477
01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:52,080
right um i mean i feel if i can take a a

2478
01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:54,080
a young detective and a young suspect

2479
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:55,440
and give them both a phone and they can

2480
01:28:58,310 --> 01:28:57,280
text the interrogation to each other it

2481
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:58,320
would be

2482
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:59,600
because they don't want to talk to each

2483
01:29:02,070 --> 01:29:00,800
other right

2484
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:02,080
wow that's interesting when you think

2485
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:04,159
about i mean i know that's that's

2486
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:06,239
kind of a crazy idea but would that hold

2487
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:07,600
up if something like that happened do

2488
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:09,120
you have to interrogate someone face to

2489
01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:11,840
face

2490
01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:12,960
you know

2491
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:14,719
when you interrogate somebody face to

2492
01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:17,600
face it's unfortunately it's not like

2493
01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:19,760
you see on television

2494
01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:21,760
it's it's a whole different dynamic but

2495
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:23,600
the problem is

2496
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:25,840
because there's no training in this

2497
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:28,480
cops do interrogations like they see

2498
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:30,800
television

2499
01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:32,960
so when i'm watching shows like 48 hours

2500
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:35,360
which are supposedly real cop shows

2501
01:29:37,830 --> 01:29:36,880
my wife makes me leave the room because

2502
01:29:39,030 --> 01:29:37,840
i'm yelling and screaming at the

2503
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:39,040
television because they're doing

2504
01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:42,000
everything wrong right um

2505
01:29:47,350 --> 01:29:44,639
my statement is the success or failure

2506
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:47,360
of interrogation is determined before

2507
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:49,199
the first question is asked

2508
01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:51,440
okay by how the person looks you mean

2509
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:53,040
well they look shady

2510
01:29:57,270 --> 01:29:55,360
when we do not approach interrogations

2511
01:29:58,390 --> 01:29:57,280
from a tactical point of view

2512
01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:58,400
everything else that we do in law

2513
01:30:01,110 --> 01:29:59,600
enforcement is approached through

2514
01:30:03,430 --> 01:30:01,120
tactics when you're responding to a

2515
01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:03,440
robbery call there's tactics involved

2516
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:04,960
you know so you don't get shot you don't

2517
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:06,480
get killed you know

2518
01:30:10,870 --> 01:30:08,560
people are kept safe all of those things

2519
01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:10,880
those tactics are taught

2520
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:14,560
when it comes to interrogating somebody

2521
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:16,400
99 of the cops i talked to i said what

2522
01:30:19,430 --> 01:30:17,280
do you do to prepare for an

2523
01:30:21,189 --> 01:30:19,440
interrogation well we read the crime

2524
01:30:22,470 --> 01:30:21,199
report we run the guy's record and i

2525
01:30:24,070 --> 01:30:22,480
look at my partner and say okay let's go

2526
01:30:27,669 --> 01:30:24,080
talk to this guy

2527
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:27,679
that's an absolute recipe for disaster

2528
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:29,520
because you are not approaching this

2529
01:30:35,189 --> 01:30:32,080
thing tactically so by the time i'm done

2530
01:30:38,470 --> 01:30:35,199
teaching a class there's 25 to 30 things

2531
01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:38,480
that that a detective needs to do before

2532
01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:40,400
he even goes in the room

2533
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:42,239
to talk to the suspect

2534
01:30:46,950 --> 01:30:45,760
and it's those things that determine the

2535
01:30:49,430 --> 01:30:46,960
success of the invest of the

2536
01:30:51,990 --> 01:30:49,440
interrogation in the long run

2537
01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:52,000
um interesting how well they taught body

2538
01:30:54,629 --> 01:30:53,600
language and reading the eyes and all

2539
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:54,639
that stuff

2540
01:30:58,790 --> 01:30:56,560
you know you know that that's a big part

2541
01:30:59,669 --> 01:30:58,800
of the major behaviors

2542
01:31:03,110 --> 01:30:59,679
um

2543
01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:03,120
one of the things with interrogations is

2544
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:03,920
what's

2545
01:31:08,310 --> 01:31:06,320
what is a successful interrogation

2546
01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:08,320
is it coming out of the room with one of

2547
01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:10,880
those yellow legal pads completely

2548
01:31:13,910 --> 01:31:12,639
filled out by the suspect with every

2549
01:31:15,990 --> 01:31:13,920
single thing that he did and all the

2550
01:31:17,590 --> 01:31:16,000
eyes crossed and the t's dotted and his

2551
01:31:19,189 --> 01:31:17,600
signature at the bottom

2552
01:31:21,590 --> 01:31:19,199
if that's how we judge a successful

2553
01:31:24,310 --> 01:31:21,600
interrogation we're doing a really lousy

2554
01:31:26,070 --> 01:31:24,320
job of it because that really doesn't

2555
01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:26,080
happen and they certainly even if they

2556
01:31:30,629 --> 01:31:27,280
do write it out they're going to write

2557
01:31:32,629 --> 01:31:30,639
it in their best light yeah sure yeah

2558
01:31:34,709 --> 01:31:32,639
but that's a rare occurrence so

2559
01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:34,719
a successful interrogation is any time

2560
01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:37,679
you leave the room with anything that

2561
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:40,560
will progress the investigation

2562
01:31:47,030 --> 01:31:43,040
okay right so you mean closer to the

2563
01:31:48,470 --> 01:31:47,040
truth if i have three guys

2564
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:48,480
who we're looking at for a drive-by

2565
01:31:51,990 --> 01:31:50,080
shooting and i have each one of them in

2566
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:52,000
a separate room and i go in and i

2567
01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:53,600
interview each one of them individually

2568
01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:56,000
and not one of them cops out

2569
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:59,520
but one shows deceptive behaviors

2570
01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:01,600
it's a successful investigation well

2571
01:32:05,510 --> 01:32:03,360
sure it is because now where are we

2572
01:32:06,790 --> 01:32:05,520
going to put our limited resources

2573
01:32:09,030 --> 01:32:06,800
are we going to put it on the two guys

2574
01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:09,040
that don't show deceptive behavior no

2575
01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:10,480
target the guy that showed deceptive

2576
01:32:13,750 --> 01:32:12,560
behavior he means you want one you have

2577
01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:13,760
to suffer

2578
01:32:19,270 --> 01:32:16,960
so now uh we have a you know a target a

2579
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:19,280
direction for the investigation

2580
01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:22,639
and so we have to start looking at uh

2581
01:32:26,629 --> 01:32:24,800
those types of things on a regular basis

2582
01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:26,639
right hey we're talking to paul bishop

2583
01:32:32,149 --> 01:32:28,560
author of lie catchers

2584
01:32:33,990 --> 01:32:32,159
uh which is out and he was with the lapd

2585
01:32:38,149 --> 01:32:34,000
as the detective for 30

2586
01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:38,159
35 years and um i got to ask you this um

2587
01:32:45,350 --> 01:32:39,120
you know

2588
01:32:47,110 --> 01:32:45,360
simpson case was were you any

2589
01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:47,120
involvement in that

2590
01:32:50,709 --> 01:32:49,920
well the o.j simpson case um

2591
01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:50,719
uh

2592
01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:00,960
involved in the case right so what

2593
01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:03,440
happened then what what happened okay so

2594
01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:06,560
i i use the oj simpson case as as the

2595
01:33:10,390 --> 01:33:09,280
worst example of interrogation in lapd

2596
01:33:11,270 --> 01:33:10,400
history

2597
01:33:13,189 --> 01:33:11,280
um

2598
01:33:15,430 --> 01:33:13,199
basically the night of the murder you

2599
01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:15,440
have o.j simpson in an interrogation

2600
01:33:17,189 --> 01:33:16,400
room

2601
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:17,199
in

2602
01:33:21,750 --> 01:33:19,199
uh the central jail

2603
01:33:24,470 --> 01:33:21,760
with a lawyer he's a civil lawyer who

2604
01:33:27,189 --> 01:33:24,480
has allowed o.j to waive his rights

2605
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:27,199
we now have two of the top robbery

2606
01:33:32,070 --> 01:33:30,000
homicide detectives who are going to go

2607
01:33:34,950 --> 01:33:32,080
and talk to oj

2608
01:33:36,390 --> 01:33:34,960
and they go in they spend 15 minutes

2609
01:33:38,629 --> 01:33:36,400
with him and i've seen the transcript

2610
01:33:41,590 --> 01:33:38,639
and i've read it numerous times

2611
01:33:43,990 --> 01:33:41,600
not once do they ask the question

2612
01:33:47,189 --> 01:33:44,000
did you do it

2613
01:33:49,590 --> 01:33:47,199
okay so why why why did you do that well

2614
01:33:52,070 --> 01:33:49,600
a couple of reasons o.j simpson was a

2615
01:33:54,870 --> 01:33:52,080
huge huge star

2616
01:33:58,229 --> 01:33:54,880
when it came to lapd you know usc star

2617
01:34:00,229 --> 01:33:58,239
nfl star movie star he was at every

2618
01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:00,239
single police function

2619
01:34:05,189 --> 01:34:02,560
christmas party golf tournament you know

2620
01:34:06,229 --> 01:34:05,199
he was really well liked yep this is jay

2621
01:34:11,590 --> 01:34:06,239
simpson

2622
01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:13,669
these guys didn't prepare for this they

2623
01:34:16,149 --> 01:34:14,880
didn't talk about what they were going

2624
01:34:17,669 --> 01:34:16,159
to do when they went in the room they

2625
01:34:19,510 --> 01:34:17,679
just looked at each other and said let's

2626
01:34:21,510 --> 01:34:19,520
go talk to oj yeah

2627
01:34:24,070 --> 01:34:21,520
now can you imagine if they had gotten a

2628
01:34:26,550 --> 01:34:24,080
confession at that time we never had the

2629
01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:26,560
five ring circus in the media that we

2630
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:27,920
had right

2631
01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:29,840
in reality right we would have three

2632
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:31,360
ring circus but we wouldn't have had

2633
01:34:34,550 --> 01:34:33,120
detectives giving up their own dna to

2634
01:34:37,750 --> 01:34:34,560
prove they weren't the suspects right

2635
01:34:39,030 --> 01:34:37,760
yes right i mean and that that to me and

2636
01:34:41,030 --> 01:34:39,040
you know this is really way of course

2637
01:34:42,550 --> 01:34:41,040
for this show but that to me was was

2638
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:42,560
like

2639
01:34:46,229 --> 01:34:43,760
one of the beginnings one of the

2640
01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:46,239
stumbling blocks of how we and

2641
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:48,400
for why we are the way we are these days

2642
01:34:52,310 --> 01:34:50,639
okay because all of a sudden no one

2643
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:52,320
believed in the justice system you know

2644
01:34:55,270 --> 01:34:53,760
what i mean no one believed that you

2645
01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:55,280
knew you could fix it

2646
01:34:57,910 --> 01:34:56,639
you know and and he fixed it because he

2647
01:34:59,430 --> 01:34:57,920
was a lot more it was like watching a

2648
01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:59,440
sporting event because it was on tv it

2649
01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:00,960
was on the right almost a year we moved

2650
01:35:05,669 --> 01:35:03,920
to california one at that time and uh i

2651
01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:05,679
tell you what i had a crush on marcia

2652
01:35:09,910 --> 01:35:07,440
clark but really i'm not going to go

2653
01:35:11,910 --> 01:35:09,920
there they were all incompetent fools

2654
01:35:12,790 --> 01:35:11,920
definitely another show did you ever

2655
01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:12,800
come up

2656
01:35:16,950 --> 01:35:15,360
meet her oh marshall oh yes on many

2657
01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:16,960
occasions really yeah what'd she look

2658
01:35:21,189 --> 01:35:18,480
like in real life if you don't mind juan

2659
01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:21,199
juan asks i'm not gonna go there okay

2660
01:35:23,830 --> 01:35:22,800
excuse me i think that's that's your

2661
01:35:24,790 --> 01:35:23,840
answer

2662
01:35:26,070 --> 01:35:24,800
okay

2663
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:26,080
um

2664
01:35:29,590 --> 01:35:28,400
so so i was just going to say so when so

2665
01:35:32,709 --> 01:35:29,600
you were saying so

2666
01:35:35,270 --> 01:35:32,719
that's how not to interrogate someone

2667
01:35:36,629 --> 01:35:35,280
but when you do see these um as you say

2668
01:35:38,070 --> 01:35:36,639
48 hours or something like that they

2669
01:35:39,910 --> 01:35:38,080
have the camera in the interrogation

2670
01:35:42,070 --> 01:35:39,920
room the person comes in and it seems

2671
01:35:43,750 --> 01:35:42,080
like you tried to get kumbaya with them

2672
01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:43,760
a little bit you try to get you know on

2673
01:35:47,350 --> 01:35:45,600
an equal level and then

2674
01:35:48,709 --> 01:35:47,360
you know when you see them do that are

2675
01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:48,719
they just praying that the person is

2676
01:35:52,950 --> 01:35:50,080
going to kind of break down and you know

2677
01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:54,550
you know it you

2678
01:35:58,310 --> 01:35:56,960
interrogation is a very intimate arc and

2679
01:36:00,229 --> 01:35:58,320
and the first thing you need to do is

2680
01:36:02,390 --> 01:36:00,239
get that big table in the room out of

2681
01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:02,400
the way you need to be sitting

2682
01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:05,440
with the suspect uh great interrogators

2683
01:36:09,990 --> 01:36:07,520
operate in that zero to one foot

2684
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:10,000
personal space that's where i feel

2685
01:36:13,030 --> 01:36:11,920
comfortable as an interrogator i'm right

2686
01:36:15,110 --> 01:36:13,040
up in your grill you're very

2687
01:36:17,350 --> 01:36:15,120
uncomfortable with that but in doing

2688
01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:17,360
that i have raised your anxiety level

2689
01:36:21,830 --> 01:36:19,280
and raising your anxiety level is what

2690
01:36:23,990 --> 01:36:21,840
is going to get you to display deceptive

2691
01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:24,000
behaviors if indeed you are guilty one

2692
01:36:27,110 --> 01:36:25,840
one is taking this down every word every

2693
01:36:29,030 --> 01:36:27,120
letter thank you

2694
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:29,040
we may need this go ahead please but

2695
01:36:33,350 --> 01:36:30,960
there's even simple questions that you

2696
01:36:35,830 --> 01:36:33,360
can ask that reveal an awful lot about a

2697
01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:35,840
suspect okay um the very first question

2698
01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:37,600
i might ask somebody is can you tell me

2699
01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:38,880
in your own words why you're down here

2700
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:40,719
talking with me today

2701
01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:42,639
and innocent person will say well it's

2702
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:44,800
about the stolen money from work

2703
01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:46,880
a guilty person may do one of two things

2704
01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:49,199
it might be well it's about the missing

2705
01:36:51,830 --> 01:36:50,480
money

2706
01:36:54,070 --> 01:36:51,840
okay there's a big difference between

2707
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:54,080
stolen money and missing money yeah yeah

2708
01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:55,199
or

2709
01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:56,880
if i ask that question an innocent

2710
01:37:00,870 --> 01:36:58,880
person gives me that one sentence answer

2711
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:00,880
it's about the stolen money a guilty

2712
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:02,800
person five minutes later they're still

2713
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:04,159
talking to me yes okay because they're

2714
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:05,760
trying to get their nervousness out in

2715
01:37:09,910 --> 01:37:08,000
their alibi out mm-hmm okay so that one

2716
01:37:11,669 --> 01:37:09,920
question alone lets me know whether i'm

2717
01:37:12,870 --> 01:37:11,679
on the right track or not okay keep your

2718
01:37:15,109 --> 01:37:12,880
answers up

2719
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:15,119
let me jump in with a question sure

2720
01:37:18,629 --> 01:37:17,440
help our audience that listens what is

2721
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:18,639
the best

2722
01:37:22,950 --> 01:37:20,960
drama that you've seen that shows

2723
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:22,960
interrogation maybe in like a movie or

2724
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:24,880
television series i mean

2725
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:27,440
what one shows the best techniques

2726
01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:29,280
well i think there was a show called lie

2727
01:37:32,950 --> 01:37:30,239
to me

2728
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:32,960
um a few years ago yeah

2729
01:37:37,669 --> 01:37:35,600
that's that's my wife's favorite wow she

2730
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:37,679
uses that as a baseline for you know it

2731
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:40,080
was really based on the the science of

2732
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:41,760
micro expressions

2733
01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:45,040
um taking paul ekman's course i i very

2734
01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:47,440
firm believer in micro expressions

2735
01:37:52,709 --> 01:37:50,480
the problem is that in the real world

2736
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:52,719
um we don't have the time to have a

2737
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:54,400
camera right on the suspect's face and

2738
01:37:58,790 --> 01:37:56,639
go through it frame by frame or video

2739
01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:58,800
second by video second to see those

2740
01:38:03,910 --> 01:38:01,040
micro expressions right plus i don't

2741
01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:03,920
need to the stuff i'm looking for is big

2742
01:38:07,750 --> 01:38:06,159
stuff and it's very clear as we go

2743
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:07,760
through and we look for those things

2744
01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:09,600
those clusters of things it's not just

2745
01:38:13,430 --> 01:38:11,679
any one thing right if you see a body

2746
01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:13,440
language deception you'll also get a

2747
01:38:17,189 --> 01:38:15,280
verbal deception

2748
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:17,199
and all of those things kind of come in

2749
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:18,960
together

2750
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:20,800
say to somebody uh can you tell me why

2751
01:38:23,669 --> 01:38:22,080
you're down here today well it's about

2752
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:23,679
the bad thing that happened to mrs jones

2753
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:24,800
huh

2754
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:26,159
well wait a minute what are you laughing

2755
01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:27,280
about there was a bad thing that

2756
01:38:29,910 --> 01:38:28,960
happened to mrs jones yeah she was raped

2757
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,920
and her hands were cut off so we

2758
01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:31,280
couldn't identify her that's kind of a

2759
01:38:34,149 --> 01:38:32,560
bad thing

2760
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:34,159
so why are you laughing why are you

2761
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:36,400
giving me that inappropriate laugh right

2762
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:38,880
all those little things play into my

2763
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:41,440
judgment of where this is going

2764
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:43,679
um criminals you always hear that you

2765
01:38:48,550 --> 01:38:46,320
know um criminals aren't usually too

2766
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,560
bright do you ever run into any

2767
01:38:52,790 --> 01:38:50,639
bright criminals

2768
01:38:54,470 --> 01:38:52,800
yeah um i mean there's as many bright

2769
01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:54,480
criminals as there are bright people i

2770
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:56,080
mean it's it's you know they're they're

2771
01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:58,960
from all walks of life uh um but i i

2772
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:01,600
love walking into an interrogation room

2773
01:39:05,189 --> 01:39:03,520
uh with a suspect who thinks he's a

2774
01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:05,199
rocket scientist and thinks i'm nothing

2775
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:07,360
but a stupid policeman yeah oh man i can

2776
01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:08,159
just

2777
01:39:14,550 --> 01:39:12,560
i'm gonna i'm gonna tell him something

2778
01:39:15,910 --> 01:39:14,560
you know as opposed to him yeah oh yeah

2779
01:39:18,790 --> 01:39:15,920
you must just love him down there to

2780
01:39:21,189 --> 01:39:18,800
find out what i've got as opposed to

2781
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:21,199
to be there to tell me anything

2782
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:23,280
um but i'm able to work with that as

2783
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:25,679
well right so you know there's a there's

2784
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:27,360
a lot of stuff that goes into this it's

2785
01:39:31,669 --> 01:39:29,280
a very fine art it's like tom brady

2786
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:31,679
under center uh at the first play of the

2787
01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:33,760
super bowl oh what's he thinking about

2788
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:35,840
you're you're mentioning

2789
01:39:39,510 --> 01:39:37,360
what's he thinking about he's thinking

2790
01:39:40,629 --> 01:39:39,520
about winning ring number five of course

2791
01:39:42,149 --> 01:39:40,639
well i believe you're setting up the

2792
01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:42,159
perfect consideration

2793
01:39:45,030 --> 01:39:43,679
yeah maybe that's balanced now it's

2794
01:39:46,709 --> 01:39:45,040
under center and he's going wow this

2795
01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:46,719
guy's eyes have tightened up over the

2796
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:48,880
off season or whatever right he's also

2797
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:51,280
thinking about the play he called in

2798
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:53,119
look at the matchups that are on the

2799
01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:55,840
defense um maybe i need to do an audible

2800
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:58,320
what are the next five plays

2801
01:40:01,350 --> 01:40:00,000
and a half a second he's thinking about

2802
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:01,360
he's thinking about that where's gizelle

2803
01:40:06,470 --> 01:40:03,440
what's she wearing today hey paul can

2804
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:06,480
you refrain from tom brady yes uh hands

2805
01:40:22,790 --> 01:40:21,030
we have left so now you've you've told

2806
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:22,800
us about you know this this incredible

2807
01:40:26,149 --> 01:40:24,400
career that you've had

2808
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:26,159
and you know getting the real scumbags

2809
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:28,239
off the street and then

2810
01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:30,400
as if that wasn't torture enough you've

2811
01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:32,880
turned into an author so you just like

2812
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:35,360
punishment is that the angle

2813
01:40:40,709 --> 01:40:38,320
you know um i've been writing uh

2814
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:40,719
professionally for 25 years now uh like

2815
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,199
actors is my 15th novel um i've written

2816
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:45,360
for television and feature films so i've

2817
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:47,760
really had two two uh careers going on

2818
01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:50,400
at the same time but with livecatchers

2819
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:52,400
um what i realized was

2820
01:40:56,229 --> 01:40:54,159
all the cops that i was talking to and

2821
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:56,239
teaching even experienced guys didn't

2822
01:41:00,390 --> 01:40:57,920
know all this stuff about interrogation

2823
01:41:02,550 --> 01:41:00,400
so clearly my readers wouldn't right and

2824
01:41:04,149 --> 01:41:02,560
we're always looking for our own niche

2825
01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:04,159
and so what i did was i sat down to

2826
01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:06,400
write like hatcher's as close to

2827
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:08,320
real world interrogation as i could get

2828
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:10,800
within a fictional setting and

2829
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:13,679
it seems to have uh you know it got two

2830
01:41:17,830 --> 01:41:15,760
best novel awards and and other things

2831
01:41:19,109 --> 01:41:17,840
so i seem to have done something right

2832
01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:19,119
nice that's wonderful so when you're

2833
01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:21,840
being interrogated woman you just give

2834
01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:23,760
short answers and you make like a guy

2835
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:24,960
you don't really know what's going on

2836
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:26,159
that sounds like i've got it down pat

2837
01:41:30,830 --> 01:41:28,000
i've got one more question for you

2838
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:30,840
given your experience in the sex crime

2839
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:34,239
arena how about your expertise maybe in

2840
01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:35,760
helping capture some of these terrorists

2841
01:41:39,679 --> 01:41:43,109
um

2842
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:45,590
there really isn't much that ties in

2843
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:48,960
between those two okay um i think the

2844
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:50,800
you know we have you're listening to

2845
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:53,360
love advice with leanne caller you're on

2846
01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:55,920
the air uh hi leanne long time listener

2847
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:57,440
first time caller

2848
01:42:01,510 --> 01:41:59,360
why in your professional opinion do you

2849
01:42:02,629 --> 01:42:01,520
never take my calls off the air is this

2850
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:02,639
carl

2851
01:42:08,629 --> 01:42:07,280
everything was great i thought uh well

2852
01:42:10,470 --> 01:42:08,639
you know

2853
01:42:12,470 --> 01:42:10,480
when you switched to geico you could

2854
01:42:15,189 --> 01:42:12,480
save a lot of money on car insurance

2855
01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:15,199
okay awesome you should call them i will

2856
01:42:19,669 --> 01:42:17,600
geico because saving 15 or more on car

2857
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:19,679
insurance is always the great answer i

2858
01:42:24,149 --> 01:42:21,199
have a number of task force out there

2859
01:42:26,229 --> 01:42:24,159
with everybody working together um what

2860
01:42:29,189 --> 01:42:26,239
we're seeing in europe i don't know how

2861
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:29,199
you stop that stuff because there's no

2862
01:42:33,669 --> 01:42:31,360
real major ties these are people that

2863
01:42:35,830 --> 01:42:33,679
are so loosely tied to the terrorist

2864
01:42:38,229 --> 01:42:35,840
organizations as to be you know a very

2865
01:42:40,870 --> 01:42:38,239
faint thread and they seem to be acting

2866
01:42:43,270 --> 01:42:40,880
on their own and acting out their anger

2867
01:42:45,750 --> 01:42:43,280
and i don't know that there's much right

2868
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,760
now that can be done to stop that i mean

2869
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:47,440
we always knew that in los angeles it

2870
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:49,360
wasn't a matter of if a terrorist action

2871
01:42:53,189 --> 01:42:51,040
happens it's when a terrorist action

2872
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,199
happens yep and i just wanted to be off

2873
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:55,440
the job by the time it did yeah oh man

2874
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:57,119
hey listen real quick mention your

2875
01:43:00,149 --> 01:42:58,960
facebook page how we uh first get to

2876
01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:00,159
know each other

2877
01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:02,639
i love you yeah um i i'm you can find my

2878
01:43:06,629 --> 01:43:04,560
my personal page of paul bishop or paul

2879
01:43:08,629 --> 01:43:06,639
bishop author is the the book page so

2880
01:43:11,510 --> 01:43:08,639
you can find both of those and then my

2881
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:11,520
website is uh paulbishopbooks.com

2882
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:14,560
okay and um the pulp book um page that

2883
01:43:18,229 --> 01:43:16,159
you're always on how we kind of met you

2884
01:43:19,750 --> 01:43:18,239
know i'm in the big i have a large pulp

2885
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:19,760
collection of um

2886
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:21,440
ace double science fictions i got like

2887
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:24,159
about 400 of those uh those are cool

2888
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:26,719
yeah and and um you know and i read that

2889
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:29,040
um i'm always looking on uh options on

2890
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:30,880
ebay just looking for old pulp books i

2891
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:32,320
love reading them i just like the way

2892
01:43:37,750 --> 01:43:34,800
the style and you do too right

2893
01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:37,760
yeah um i'm more into the the pulp

2894
01:43:41,430 --> 01:43:39,600
westerns and and the westerns from the

2895
01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:41,440
50s and 60s and those great men's

2896
01:43:48,070 --> 01:43:44,159
adventure books uh of which wing man is

2897
01:43:50,629 --> 01:43:48,080
is really uh uh a prototype for for one

2898
01:43:54,550 --> 01:43:50,639
segment of those men's adventure stories

2899
01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:56,149
hey paul it's been great talking to you

2900
01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:57,760
thank you very much for helping me kind

2901
01:44:01,910 --> 01:43:59,360
of uh behind the scenes with wingman

2902
01:44:04,550 --> 01:44:01,920
really appreciate it and uh my pleasure

2903
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:04,560
is paul bishop like hitches you know one

2904
01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:06,480
line get it fascinating

2905
01:44:10,629 --> 01:44:08,960
and uh join us again real soon okay

2906
01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:10,639
we'll do paul thank you very much paul

2907
01:44:14,470 --> 01:44:13,119
bishop everyone uh thank you and uh

2908
01:44:15,750 --> 01:44:14,480
we're gonna take a commercial break now

2909
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:15,760
we'll be right back after this you're

2910
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:17,360
listening to macmony's mill track style

2911
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:18,960
show here on the distant thunder radio

2912
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,840
network over the years air force major

2913
01:44:26,229 --> 01:44:23,840
hawk hunter and his band of patriotic

2914
01:44:28,870 --> 01:44:26,239
fighter pilots have fought tirelessly to

2915
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:28,880
reunite a fractured america devastated

2916
01:44:34,070 --> 01:44:31,760
by a russian sneak attack

2917
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:34,080
now returning from a mysterious space

2918
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:37,199
odyssey hunter finds a huge russian army

2919
01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:39,840
occupying new york city ready to invade

2920
01:44:43,830 --> 01:44:42,000
the rest of america

2921
01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:43,840
buzzing through the city's skyscraper

2922
01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:46,560
canyons in a tiny top-secret ghost plane

2923
01:44:50,950 --> 01:44:48,159
and seeing the invader's massive

2924
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:50,960
weaponry for himself hawk realizes he's

2925
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:52,800
up against the greatest danger his

2926
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:55,360
homeland has ever faced

2927
01:44:59,189 --> 01:44:57,440
but equally alarming are reports

2928
01:45:01,270 --> 01:44:59,199
claiming that hawke's former girlfriend

2929
01:45:03,430 --> 01:45:01,280
dominique is living with the head of the

2930
01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:03,440
russian secret police in a manhattan

2931
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:04,639
penthouse

2932
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:07,360
is she his prisoner or is she something

2933
01:45:09,270 --> 01:45:07,890
else

2934
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:09,280
[Music]

2935
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:11,119
with the woman in the country he loves

2936
01:45:16,229 --> 01:45:13,679
in dire peril hawk hunter the wingman

2937
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:16,239
will apply all his aviation prowess to

2938
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:17,920
launch the most crucial battle for

2939
01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:21,679
america yet no matter what the risks

2940
01:45:26,310 --> 01:45:23,920
filled with fast-paced action a wide

2941
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:26,320
range of aircraft and military hardware

2942
01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:28,239
battle for america brings back your

2943
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:30,719
favorite characters from earlier books

2944
01:45:35,510 --> 01:45:33,040
in the wingman series and delivers a

2945
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:35,520
riveting story that reveals new insight

2946
01:45:39,669 --> 01:45:37,920
on america's most famous hero the

2947
01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:39,679
wingman

2948
01:45:48,730 --> 01:45:45,600
on sale now at amazon.com and available

2949
01:46:01,189 --> 01:45:48,740
at your local bookstore

2950
01:46:03,189 --> 01:46:01,199
[Music]

2951
01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:03,199
hi i'm christopher watkin and you're

2952
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:05,920
listening to the mac maloney military

2953
01:46:10,709 --> 01:46:07,440
x-files show

2954
01:46:12,229 --> 01:46:10,719
on disney thunder radio network

2955
01:46:13,990 --> 01:46:12,239
hey welcome back everyone to macmillan's

2956
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:14,000
military style show here on the disney

2957
01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:15,679
thunder radio network this is mac

2958
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:16,880
maloney

2959
01:46:20,629 --> 01:46:18,480
in the studio with us tonight very

2960
01:46:22,709 --> 01:46:20,639
famous 101 is here hello mark good show

2961
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:22,719
tonight his page attend thank you very

2962
01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:24,719
much you're welcome also one studio

2963
01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:28,000
behind us cobra is here

2964
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:29,440
gentlemen

2965
01:46:33,750 --> 01:46:32,320
and um online with us on the phone with

2966
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:33,760
us

2967
01:46:38,470 --> 01:46:36,080
switch reno up there in battle creek

2968
01:46:40,629 --> 01:46:38,480
michigan switchblade steve one what's

2969
01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:40,639
going on up there these days

2970
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:43,280
well uh not too much uh you know changes

2971
01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:45,119
in weather and all that but i'm uh i'm

2972
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:47,760
getting ready to go to the monster bash

2973
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:49,360
this coming weekend

2974
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:50,239
which is

2975
01:46:53,270 --> 01:46:51,760
uh that's kind of like a poor man's

2976
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:53,280
comic con you know the same kind of

2977
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:55,280
thing yes celebrities and so forth not

2978
01:47:02,229 --> 01:46:59,600
as big not as crowded uh in march

2979
01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:02,239
oh no no i'm just going as a paranormal

2980
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:04,880
investigator i guess

2981
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:06,960
levi's yeah he could always wear a rod

2982
01:47:10,709 --> 01:47:08,639
t-shirt

2983
01:47:13,109 --> 01:47:10,719
i could yes

2984
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:14,950
followed by a dead silence yeah do some

2985
01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:16,960
shameless promotions yeah please yeah

2986
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:18,159
you mean i have to i have to give up my

2987
01:47:21,910 --> 01:47:20,080
tony the tiger t-shirt i guess i could

2988
01:47:24,709 --> 01:47:21,920
give him a drum roll on that one that

2989
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:26,470
so where where is it where is it uh

2990
01:47:32,550 --> 01:47:28,880
being held uh yeah mars pennsylvania

2991
01:47:35,109 --> 01:47:32,560
okay oh how appropriate how cute mars

2992
01:47:37,910 --> 01:47:35,119
and how far away is that from you

2993
01:47:38,950 --> 01:47:37,920
oh it's about uh four or five hours uh

2994
01:47:40,390 --> 01:47:38,960
we uh

2995
01:47:42,950 --> 01:47:40,400
several of us converge on a friend's

2996
01:47:44,310 --> 01:47:42,960
house in mercer pennsylvania and stay

2997
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:44,320
there thursday night and then because

2998
01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:47,040
it's all day friday saturday and sunday

2999
01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:47,920
uh

3000
01:47:54,790 --> 01:47:52,400
remember larry storch right oh yeah sure

3001
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:54,800
f funniest guy he's gonna be there wow

3002
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:55,679
cool

3003
01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:57,280
remember that the cheesy erwin ellen

3004
01:48:01,910 --> 01:48:00,080
show land of the giants oh yeah yeah

3005
01:48:03,189 --> 01:48:01,920
well gary conway the guy that was kind

3006
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:03,199
of the captain of the ship he was going

3007
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:05,520
to be there yeah okay uh mighty joe

3008
01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:08,320
young the the movie mighty joe young yep

3009
01:48:12,470 --> 01:48:10,080
the movie you mean moved back in the 40s

3010
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:12,480
that one yes exactly yeah uh the young

3011
01:48:15,669 --> 01:48:13,679
lady

3012
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:15,679
that was in it who's not quite as young

3013
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:17,360
now terry moore will be there as well as

3014
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:18,880
well excellent there'll be quite a few

3015
01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:20,320
people yeah yeah i think mighty joe

3016
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:21,679
young i think they just used the same

3017
01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:23,199
puppet they used in king kong we just

3018
01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:24,960
made them smaller and

3019
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:26,239
i think they lightened up his fur a

3020
01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:28,159
little bit one-on-one

3021
01:48:31,430 --> 01:48:29,840
so so what happens so you go and you and

3022
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:31,440
there's and there's uh the celebrities

3023
01:48:35,030 --> 01:48:33,410
there anyone in in is it um

3024
01:48:36,790 --> 01:48:35,040
[Music]

3025
01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:36,800
do they have the autograph tables and

3026
01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:38,400
that kind of stuff yeah they have

3027
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:40,480
autograph tables they uh they interview

3028
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:42,480
uh the celebrities and you get to ask

3029
01:48:46,310 --> 01:48:44,320
questions uh there's a guy there that

3030
01:48:48,149 --> 01:48:46,320
does a really excellent montage of all

3031
01:48:50,390 --> 01:48:48,159
their work you know you get clips of

3032
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:50,400
things they've done right uh they have

3033
01:48:53,030 --> 01:48:51,600
you know all kinds of stuff going on

3034
01:48:54,709 --> 01:48:53,040
there it's a lot of fun right and again

3035
01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:54,719
it's not it's not as jam-packed i've

3036
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:56,080
heard some horror stories about

3037
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:58,400
comic-con about standing in lines and

3038
01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:00,800
right and usually the autographs are not

3039
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:02,560
quite uh quite as

3040
01:49:06,149 --> 01:49:04,719
expensive right here they autographed

3041
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:06,159
their old picture of when they were big

3042
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:08,400
stars right that's what they do yeah

3043
01:49:13,030 --> 01:49:10,480
publicity shots of them when they're in

3044
01:49:14,950 --> 01:49:13,040
tv you know i got to just interject this

3045
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:14,960
is i saw on

3046
01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:16,800
it wasn't on the news it was somewhere

3047
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:17,840
else because i don't watch the news

3048
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:19,840
anymore and the

3049
01:49:24,470 --> 01:49:21,520
city of los angeles

3050
01:49:26,229 --> 01:49:24,480
honored adam west after he passed away

3051
01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:26,239
and west of batman

3052
01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:29,520
they had they held this huge kind of um

3053
01:49:32,310 --> 01:49:30,480
rally

3054
01:49:34,390 --> 01:49:32,320
slash press conference out on the steps

3055
01:49:36,310 --> 01:49:34,400
of the courthouse

3056
01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:36,320
with the mayor and the chief of police

3057
01:49:39,669 --> 01:49:38,320
right there all right with the red phone

3058
01:49:41,030 --> 01:49:39,679
did you see it they had the red phone

3059
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:41,040
with the light on it and then they they

3060
01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:43,520
shine the beacon they shine the beacon

3061
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:46,080
yeah they put the bats yeah put the best

3062
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:47,920
yeah yeah it was really cool anyone

3063
01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:49,920
remembers that show was like crazy man

3064
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:51,360
but you look at it now it's funny

3065
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:54,320
yourself did you look at on the batman

3066
01:49:58,790 --> 01:49:56,639
tv show the list of people who

3067
01:50:01,430 --> 01:49:58,800
participated in that show

3068
01:50:02,950 --> 01:50:01,440
his biggest big stars too big time there

3069
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:02,960
might have been a good show to be in it

3070
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:05,520
was the it show yep

3071
01:50:10,229 --> 01:50:08,639
yeah so anyway uh steve so um

3072
01:50:11,910 --> 01:50:10,239
um what's the name of this again the

3073
01:50:13,189 --> 01:50:11,920
monster mask they call it the monster

3074
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:13,199
bash i guess they've been doing this for

3075
01:50:17,750 --> 01:50:15,920
about 20 years right okay all right yep

3076
01:50:18,629 --> 01:50:17,760
um i'd love stuff like that i love all

3077
01:50:20,550 --> 01:50:18,639
those

3078
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:20,560
it wasn't irma allen he was the guy

3079
01:50:23,510 --> 01:50:22,080
right yeah voice at the bottom of the

3080
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:23,520
sea and

3081
01:50:28,870 --> 01:50:26,320
uh time tunnel and they would do use the

3082
01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:28,880
same cheesy uh alien costumes passed

3083
01:50:33,030 --> 01:50:30,880
back and forth over and over and over

3084
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:33,040
you know um and then lost in space he

3085
01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:34,800
did last in space too

3086
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:36,560
yeah and they would take literally they

3087
01:50:41,270 --> 01:50:39,280
would take the the xerox machine

3088
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:41,280
put it on the set put stuff on and they

3089
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:42,880
believe it's an alien robot or something

3090
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:44,960
like that that's how low the budget was

3091
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:46,639
and this guy was like notoriously cheap

3092
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:47,440
but

3093
01:51:05,270 --> 01:50:49,280
he was worse than ed wood then

3094
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:06,550
i'm glad somebody in the room got it

3095
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:07,760
thanks

3096
01:51:09,830 --> 01:51:09,040
do you want to repeat it i didn't hear

3097
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:09,840
it

3098
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:12,000
philip we were talking ed wood yes

3099
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:12,960
because

3100
01:51:17,430 --> 01:51:15,440
yes and i said his most famous movie

3101
01:51:20,229 --> 01:51:17,440
playing nine from outer space but it's

3102
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:20,239
not it what gave him his big break was

3103
01:51:24,470 --> 01:51:22,320
glenn or glenda right

3104
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:24,480
and uh he she did not know which uh uh

3105
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:27,040
laboratory to use apparently

3106
01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:28,159
that's the read letter you had to go

3107
01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:30,080
there

3108
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:31,360
steve always says

3109
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:38,390
oh my god if you haven't seen the movie

3110
01:51:42,470 --> 01:51:40,400
that johnny depp did about him

3111
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:42,480
that is one of the best movies about the

3112
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:45,040
craziness of bee hollywood ever yeah

3113
01:51:47,430 --> 01:51:46,000
yeah

3114
01:51:49,430 --> 01:51:47,440
i'll bet

3115
01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:49,440
oh my god is it good yeah and they say

3116
01:51:53,030 --> 01:51:51,679
that the run-in with orson welles is

3117
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:53,040
true that he actually did have the

3118
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:54,800
run-in with arsenal i'm sure austin

3119
01:51:57,510 --> 01:51:56,080
wells he's the guy

3120
01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:57,520
the only guy in hollywood who started at

3121
01:52:00,550 --> 01:51:58,960
the very top and worked his way all the

3122
01:52:01,669 --> 01:52:00,560
way down

3123
01:52:04,070 --> 01:52:01,679
making

3124
01:52:06,709 --> 01:52:04,080
at the end hey listen so um steve you

3125
01:52:08,070 --> 01:52:06,719
were telling us about the affair this um

3126
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:08,080
these things that seem to happen up in

3127
01:52:11,030 --> 01:52:09,840
washington state is washington state

3128
01:52:12,950 --> 01:52:11,040
like the

3129
01:52:15,750 --> 01:52:12,960
biggest state for paranormal activity

3130
01:52:17,510 --> 01:52:15,760
are people reporting it or anything uh

3131
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:17,520
no i think there's a lot of you know

3132
01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:19,760
we've talked a lot about hot spots on on

3133
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:21,360
the show and it just turns out there's

3134
01:52:26,390 --> 01:52:23,840
another one of these uh hot spots it's

3135
01:52:29,109 --> 01:52:26,400
kind of a big bigfoot area but but we're

3136
01:52:31,430 --> 01:52:29,119
gonna start with uh you go back to april

3137
01:52:35,189 --> 01:52:31,440
1st 1959.

3138
01:52:37,109 --> 01:52:35,199
uh near orting that's ort ing washington

3139
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:37,119
and there was a

3140
01:52:41,350 --> 01:52:39,679
some kind of a crash or collision a

3141
01:52:43,910 --> 01:52:41,360
c-118

3142
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:43,920
had uh they there were four men on board

3143
01:52:47,669 --> 01:52:46,159
they took off from mccord air force base

3144
01:52:50,310 --> 01:52:47,679
tacoma washington

3145
01:52:52,149 --> 01:52:50,320
and a call went out may day may day we

3146
01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:52,159
hit something

3147
01:52:55,750 --> 01:52:53,040
and

3148
01:52:59,510 --> 01:52:55,760
that was it the plane came down four men

3149
01:53:01,990 --> 01:52:59,520
were dead on the side of a mountain

3150
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:02,000
somewhere between summer and morning the

3151
01:53:06,950 --> 01:53:03,119
uh

3152
01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:06,960
the crash was immediately cordoned off

3153
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:08,560
by the air force

3154
01:53:13,030 --> 01:53:10,880
uh april came in

3155
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:13,040
got involved that was april the aerial

3156
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:14,880
phenomena research organization long

3157
01:53:18,470 --> 01:53:17,040
defunct unfortunately but one of the

3158
01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:18,480
really uh

3159
01:53:23,270 --> 01:53:21,119
primary ufo organizations at the time

3160
01:53:25,270 --> 01:53:23,280
they located several witnesses that saw

3161
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:25,280
this plane and they said that they saw

3162
01:53:31,109 --> 01:53:28,560
two orange yellow objects which seemed

3163
01:53:33,189 --> 01:53:31,119
to be in pursuit of the plane

3164
01:53:35,750 --> 01:53:33,199
now of course uh

3165
01:53:37,750 --> 01:53:35,760
the air force brushed it off they said

3166
01:53:39,910 --> 01:53:37,760
uh oh there's nothing to see here

3167
01:53:41,109 --> 01:53:39,920
they're just parachute flares right what

3168
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:41,119
year was this

3169
01:53:44,629 --> 01:53:43,599
this is 1959. okay yep

3170
01:53:46,470 --> 01:53:44,639
now

3171
01:53:49,669 --> 01:53:46,480
flash forward we're going to go ahead to

3172
01:53:50,629 --> 01:53:49,679
about 1973 1974.

3173
01:53:54,149 --> 01:53:50,639
uh

3174
01:53:55,669 --> 01:53:54,159
a lady named sally shepard wolford she

3175
01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:55,679
and her family she and her husband john

3176
01:54:00,310 --> 01:53:57,760
and her three our three daughters

3177
01:54:02,149 --> 01:54:00,320
moved to the same general area

3178
01:54:04,229 --> 01:54:02,159
okay and they're right on the i think

3179
01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:04,239
it's that's pronounced the carbon river

3180
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:05,920
crbon

3181
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:09,280
uh the small small very small cabin uh

3182
01:54:12,070 --> 01:54:10,480
there's not not too many people that

3183
01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:12,080
live in this area

3184
01:54:15,750 --> 01:54:13,599
and uh

3185
01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:15,760
she has a neighbor named jody a native

3186
01:54:18,709 --> 01:54:17,119
american woman

3187
01:54:20,550 --> 01:54:18,719
well there's just a lot of really

3188
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:20,560
strange stuff going on here but before i

3189
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:23,119
get to that oh the other thing i'll get

3190
01:54:27,430 --> 01:54:25,280
to later is that uh

3191
01:54:28,870 --> 01:54:27,440
sally and john had a very famous

3192
01:54:29,910 --> 01:54:28,880
daughter yes

3193
01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:29,920
uh

3194
01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:32,400
autumn williams who is known as one of

3195
01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:34,800
the primary bigfoot researchers in uh

3196
01:54:38,229 --> 01:54:36,159
these days sorry it just sounds like a

3197
01:54:40,229 --> 01:54:38,239
stripper's name i'm sorry

3198
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:40,239
i'm sure i'm sure autumn

3199
01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:41,840
stop saying that imitating put your

3200
01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:43,520
hands together ladies and gentlemen for

3201
01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:46,320
the lovely and talented autumn yes

3202
01:54:50,550 --> 01:54:48,800
and she is uh quite lovely and talented

3203
01:54:52,149 --> 01:54:50,560
i've seen her on she's been on several

3204
01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:52,159
reality shows and very

3205
01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:54,239
serious about her research

3206
01:54:58,870 --> 01:54:55,360
uh

3207
01:55:01,669 --> 01:54:58,880
but what they had they moved to a small

3208
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:01,679
cabin and

3209
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:04,000
sally had read an old book by frank

3210
01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:05,760
edwards i'm not sure which one it was i

3211
01:55:10,470 --> 01:55:08,480
tried to track it down but she read she

3212
01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:10,480
and her friend yody read about this

3213
01:55:13,990 --> 01:55:12,480
particular crash or collision or

3214
01:55:16,070 --> 01:55:14,000
whatever it was and it's right in their

3215
01:55:18,149 --> 01:55:16,080
area so they decided to go to the the

3216
01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:18,159
local paper there to see if they could

3217
01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:20,000
find anything in the archives

3218
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:21,280
and they found there was some people had

3219
01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:23,920
purchased the the newspaper not to

3220
01:55:27,350 --> 01:55:26,159
you know maybe just a few years before

3221
01:55:29,109 --> 01:55:27,360
they said well things aren't too

3222
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:29,119
organized but feel free to go through

3223
01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:31,199
all the the papers and they did

3224
01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:32,960
and they they organized the heads have

3225
01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:35,440
some that went back to the late 1800s so

3226
01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:37,040
they organized these papers it must have

3227
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:38,320
been a weekly or something like that it

3228
01:55:41,510 --> 01:55:40,560
wasn't wasn't the daily paper

3229
01:55:43,109 --> 01:55:41,520
and

3230
01:55:44,149 --> 01:55:43,119
sure enough i mean you probably guessed

3231
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:44,159
it

3232
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:48,800
and several newspapers after that

3233
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:50,560
several days after that there are no

3234
01:55:55,109 --> 01:55:53,040
issues wow so somebody had come in

3235
01:55:56,870 --> 01:55:55,119
apparently and just gotten rid of the

3236
01:55:59,430 --> 01:55:56,880
the evidence there

3237
01:56:01,589 --> 01:55:59,440
wow that's a little creepy

3238
01:56:03,350 --> 01:56:01,599
is a little weird um is there something

3239
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:03,360
about um

3240
01:56:06,390 --> 01:56:04,960
i'll ask the same question again is

3241
01:56:07,589 --> 01:56:06,400
there is

3242
01:56:08,950 --> 01:56:07,599
is there something about washington

3243
01:56:11,750 --> 01:56:08,960
state that makes it like a different

3244
01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:11,760
kind of hot zone like down in

3245
01:56:15,589 --> 01:56:13,760
st louis valley in colorado they see us

3246
01:56:17,109 --> 01:56:15,599
they see like certain numbers of things

3247
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:17,119
you know what i mean including flying

3248
01:56:21,189 --> 01:56:19,760
people it's the number of starbucks

3249
01:56:23,990 --> 01:56:21,199
there was a gentleman named paul was a

3250
01:56:27,109 --> 01:56:24,000
bigfoot researcher that uh

3251
01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:27,119
it turned out there was a uh a meteor

3252
01:56:30,950 --> 01:56:29,199
hit in the early 50s

3253
01:56:32,390 --> 01:56:30,960
and washington the university of

3254
01:56:34,550 --> 01:56:32,400
washington checked it out it was made

3255
01:56:35,750 --> 01:56:34,560
primarily of iron

3256
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:35,760
and uh

3257
01:56:39,510 --> 01:56:37,760
one of the this guy felt that he talked

3258
01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:39,520
about several high strangers areas like

3259
01:56:43,990 --> 01:56:41,679
the you know east coast of uh florida

3260
01:56:46,629 --> 01:56:44,000
where there's a lot of uh you know the

3261
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:46,639
bermuda triangle and pennsylvania and i

3262
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:47,920
think he's talking about the spot that

3263
01:56:51,589 --> 01:56:50,400
stan gordon has covered uh

3264
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:51,599
there's a

3265
01:56:53,990 --> 01:56:52,560
you know there's different different

3266
01:56:56,950 --> 01:56:54,000
types of uh

3267
01:56:58,070 --> 01:56:56,960
terrain and the a large iron content

3268
01:57:00,870 --> 01:56:58,080
seems to

3269
01:57:02,709 --> 01:57:00,880
uh be one of the factors really yeah i

3270
01:57:04,070 --> 01:57:02,719
mean

3271
01:57:06,550 --> 01:57:04,080
you know in the in the ground in the

3272
01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:06,560
terrain and so on right well just also

3273
01:57:10,709 --> 01:57:08,239
uh limestone and so forth a lot of

3274
01:57:15,350 --> 01:57:10,719
people think hauntings occur in there

3275
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:17,270
go ahead i i never heard that but i can

3276
01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:19,040
almost see it in a way if you so there's

3277
01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:20,560
a lot of limestones around you see a lot

3278
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:22,719
of ghosts there are a lot of theories

3279
01:57:28,629 --> 01:57:25,679
about the geography of the area being uh

3280
01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:28,639
conducive to this kind of thing right

3281
01:57:31,669 --> 01:57:29,760
wow

3282
01:57:33,669 --> 01:57:31,679
but uh

3283
01:57:35,189 --> 01:57:33,679
uh so what they what they had done they

3284
01:57:36,629 --> 01:57:35,199
had this small cabin they had a

3285
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:36,639
originally they just had a stove where

3286
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:38,639
they had to actually gather wood

3287
01:57:43,030 --> 01:57:41,520
to uh to fuel it well uh

3288
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:43,040
sally and her daughter autumn when she

3289
01:57:46,149 --> 01:57:44,880
was only about three they went out

3290
01:57:47,350 --> 01:57:46,159
gathering wood

3291
01:57:49,750 --> 01:57:47,360
and

3292
01:57:52,229 --> 01:57:49,760
she you know it's a misty morning

3293
01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:52,239
they're in the woods and they see she

3294
01:57:56,310 --> 01:57:54,880
sees this seven foot bigfoot creature

3295
01:57:57,589 --> 01:57:56,320
days before this they'd heard things

3296
01:58:00,550 --> 01:57:57,599
moving around in the woods something

3297
01:58:02,550 --> 01:58:00,560
very large and powerful uh

3298
01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:02,560
and she even saw like hair caught up in

3299
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:04,080
the tree like several feet up that

3300
01:58:07,669 --> 01:58:06,000
couldn't have been a conventional animal

3301
01:58:09,830 --> 01:58:07,679
wow wow

3302
01:58:12,070 --> 01:58:09,840
wow well that's you know people see

3303
01:58:14,870 --> 01:58:12,080
bigfoot a lot up there it seems you know

3304
01:58:17,109 --> 01:58:14,880
well they saw quite a few uh quite a few

3305
01:58:18,950 --> 01:58:17,119
sightings of bigfoot uh

3306
01:58:20,550 --> 01:58:18,960
autumn when she was a little girl she

3307
01:58:21,910 --> 01:58:20,560
didn't really think much of it she just

3308
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:21,920
thought because they looked kind of

3309
01:58:24,310 --> 01:58:22,800
human

3310
01:58:26,310 --> 01:58:24,320
she just thought it was they were like

3311
01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:26,320
friends of her father yeah that's funny

3312
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,480
big and hairy wow

3313
01:58:31,750 --> 01:58:30,560
you know i gotta i gotta just

3314
01:58:33,030 --> 01:58:31,760
ask you one question on the whole

3315
01:58:35,189 --> 01:58:33,040
bigfoot thing and i'm sure a lot of

3316
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:35,199
people have asked the same question i

3317
01:58:39,510 --> 01:58:37,199
mean doesn't it seem like i i mean i've

3318
01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:39,520
seen documentaries where it's it's like

3319
01:58:42,950 --> 01:58:41,360
how can it be how could it not be

3320
01:58:45,109 --> 01:58:42,960
something what people think it was this

3321
01:58:47,589 --> 01:58:45,119
huge creature you know finding tracks

3322
01:58:49,750 --> 01:58:47,599
like five miles uh you know two or three

3323
01:58:51,510 --> 01:58:49,760
hour trek into the woods and there's

3324
01:58:54,149 --> 01:58:51,520
tracks there you know who would who what

3325
01:58:55,910 --> 01:58:54,159
hoaxer would do that you know

3326
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:55,920
um but

3327
01:58:59,189 --> 01:58:57,599
why don't they find their bodies why

3328
01:59:01,189 --> 01:58:59,199
don't they find their

3329
01:59:02,550 --> 01:59:01,199
you know you find deer carcasses you

3330
01:59:04,550 --> 01:59:02,560
find you know

3331
01:59:06,149 --> 01:59:04,560
waste material yeah

3332
01:59:08,790 --> 01:59:06,159
why none of that

3333
01:59:10,550 --> 01:59:08,800
okay then perhaps we should uh continue

3334
01:59:12,709 --> 01:59:10,560
this maybe have a cliffhanger because

3335
01:59:15,270 --> 01:59:12,719
there's a lot of really bizarre elements

3336
01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:15,280
that happen during this this uh these

3337
01:59:19,350 --> 01:59:16,480
occurrences

3338
01:59:22,310 --> 01:59:19,360
and you talk about why you know why they

3339
01:59:23,910 --> 01:59:22,320
don't see them well uh

3340
01:59:27,109 --> 01:59:23,920
they actually uh

3341
01:59:28,390 --> 01:59:27,119
yody's uh uh daughter emily

3342
01:59:31,750 --> 01:59:28,400
actually saw one of these things just

3343
01:59:35,430 --> 01:59:34,070
sally's husband john who had been a a

3344
01:59:37,750 --> 01:59:35,440
real skeptic

3345
01:59:39,669 --> 01:59:37,760
they'd had a flood and she's he saw one

3346
01:59:41,510 --> 01:59:39,679
of these things across the bank but he

3347
01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:41,520
still was in denial until one night they

3348
01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:43,599
had all this bizarre activity them and

3349
01:59:49,109 --> 01:59:46,320
the neighbors he actually saw footprints

3350
01:59:51,350 --> 01:59:49,119
appearing in the dirt in the pathway to

3351
01:59:53,189 --> 01:59:51,360
the houses but he didn't actually see

3352
01:59:54,229 --> 01:59:53,199
anything there was no body there oh that

3353
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:54,239
is not

3354
02:00:01,189 --> 01:59:56,159
that's that's you know chilling so what

3355
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:03,270
maybe a paranormal angle to this you

3356
02:00:06,709 --> 02:00:04,960
know as opposed to something definitely

3357
02:00:08,070 --> 02:00:06,719
because it really we're actually going

3358
02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:08,080
to get into the

3359
02:00:11,430 --> 02:00:09,280
men in black

3360
02:00:12,550 --> 02:00:11,440
when we get to the part two of this

3361
02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:12,560
okay

3362
02:00:16,550 --> 02:00:15,040
thank you very much steve for joining us

3363
02:00:17,510 --> 02:00:16,560
as always

3364
02:00:19,589 --> 02:00:17,520
um

3365
02:00:21,750 --> 02:00:19,599
and my pleasure yeah we will see you

3366
02:00:23,430 --> 02:00:21,760
listen to you hear you next week

3367
02:00:25,589 --> 02:00:23,440
and uh maybe i can give a little update

3368
02:00:27,830 --> 02:00:25,599
also on uh the fun i had of the monster

3369
02:00:29,589 --> 02:00:27,840
bash as well yes okay we'll send you a

3370
02:00:31,030 --> 02:00:29,599
check if you uh one will send you send

3371
02:00:32,629 --> 02:00:31,040
us a poster

3372
02:00:34,629 --> 02:00:32,639
if you want to wear the t-shirt well too

3373
02:00:36,149 --> 02:00:34,639
if you wear the t-shirt you'll get a

3374
02:00:36,950 --> 02:00:36,159
three figure check in the mail from one

3375
02:00:42,550 --> 02:00:36,960
one

3376
02:00:47,109 --> 02:00:44,390
i mean that's my tom brady account dick

3377
02:00:48,149 --> 02:00:47,119
oh man we had to bring him into it

3378
02:00:49,510 --> 02:00:48,159
thanks steve

3379
02:00:50,310 --> 02:00:49,520
all right steve you're good talk to you

3380
02:00:51,830 --> 02:00:50,320
soon

3381
02:00:53,430 --> 02:00:51,840
bye

3382
02:00:55,109 --> 02:00:53,440
guess what guys it's the end of the show

3383
02:00:57,189 --> 02:00:55,119
no way does it seem like we've been here

3384
02:00:59,189 --> 02:00:57,199
like 12 hours no it's actually time

3385
02:01:00,950 --> 02:00:59,199
flies when we're having so much fun no

3386
02:01:02,310 --> 02:01:00,960
it seems like half an hour okay i don't

3387
02:01:04,070 --> 02:01:02,320
know where you've been but maybe the

3388
02:01:07,109 --> 02:01:04,080
aliens you know

3389
02:01:09,109 --> 02:01:07,119
you lost some time there yeah i think so

3390
02:01:10,470 --> 02:01:09,119
thanks to everyone who joined us tonight

3391
02:01:13,030 --> 02:01:10,480
um

3392
02:01:14,790 --> 02:01:13,040
ben davis down there in florida you know

3393
02:01:16,790 --> 02:01:14,800
fighting the good fight against just

3394
02:01:18,470 --> 02:01:16,800
about everybody on the planet

3395
02:01:20,149 --> 02:01:18,480
um

3396
02:01:21,669 --> 02:01:20,159
our good friend paul bishop you know

3397
02:01:24,229 --> 02:01:21,679
hopefully he's our friend now he's the

3398
02:01:25,830 --> 02:01:24,239
best detective in uh los angeles

3399
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:25,840
uh talking about interrogation

3400
02:01:29,350 --> 02:01:27,280
techniques i think we should all that's

3401
02:01:30,550 --> 02:01:29,360
pretty good memorizing the classes and i

3402
02:01:32,629 --> 02:01:30,560
think that's what he does he gives

3403
02:01:34,629 --> 02:01:32,639
classes on it right yeah yeah and for

3404
02:01:36,950 --> 02:01:34,639
him to call in some night and and talk

3405
02:01:38,950 --> 02:01:36,960
about the in the interrogation of lehigh

3406
02:01:40,149 --> 02:01:38,960
oswald and what this guy did and it

3407
02:01:42,550 --> 02:01:40,159
really leads you to believe that he was

3408
02:01:44,790 --> 02:01:42,560
trained spy the stuff that he was doing

3409
02:01:48,950 --> 02:01:44,800
anyway that would be a cool segment

3410
02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:48,960
um and uh of course rob beckhausen

3411
02:01:54,070 --> 02:01:51,599
and switcherino thanks for joining us

3412
02:01:56,070 --> 02:01:54,080
lois lane thank you for joining us

3413
02:01:57,270 --> 02:01:56,080
gum drops the cog you might end up in

3414
02:02:01,750 --> 02:01:57,280
the cutting room

3415
02:02:05,430 --> 02:02:04,070
commander is always awesome yeah it

3416
02:02:07,830 --> 02:02:05,440
sounds like we just woke him up in there

3417
02:02:09,109 --> 02:02:07,840
you know we could see his this boots

3418
02:02:10,310 --> 02:02:09,119
yeah it looks like he's in a reclining

3419
02:02:11,910 --> 02:02:10,320
position is that right you see better

3420
02:02:15,109 --> 02:02:11,920
than me nope i'm just trying to keep the

3421
02:02:17,109 --> 02:02:15,119
g horses down oh okay yeah just alert

3422
02:02:20,470 --> 02:02:17,119
thank you

3423
02:02:22,629 --> 02:02:20,480
tonight and we'll be here next week

3424
02:02:23,669 --> 02:02:22,639
until then this is mac morningfield gang

3425
02:02:27,350 --> 02:02:23,679
saying